THE PARSONS LIST - P to Z
Ron Parsons is a maritime historian and author who contributed greatly
to the Encyclopedia of Australia Shipwrecks. The following list of corrections
and additions were kindly provided by Ron on disk. It is the intention
to include these in the update entries above when time permits.
PPPPPPPPPPPP
p.C.E. you will not get English topography correct, it
was built at Hylton, a town near Sunderland, in county Durham, not Hilton
and company!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PACIFIC I PS.A LOVELY LOT OF RUBBISH HERE. SEE Aust.Coastal Pass
Ships. I PS ON2668 1469g 985n B.1854 John Scott Russell,Millwall for the
æSydney & Melbourne S.P.CoÆ not the Melbourne SP Co, Arrived
sydney Feb. 26, 1855 after a lengthy passage uner steam, but
by then the M&S SP Co was in financial difficulties and after one or
two return trips to Melbounre the vessel was sent back to England for sale
and therefore was one of the few PADDLE Steamers to have made a return
voyage to England under steam,. She became Transport No. 8 chartered by
the British Government for the Crimean war. Was converted to Screw
propulsion in 1866 = 1294/850n and was wrecked Feb.7, 1871 Whalsey Is,
Shetland Islands, 27 lost. Was chartered in 1859 as a transatlantic vessel
for the Galway Line (Atlantic Royal Mail S.N.c.) dimensions 248.5 x 32.2
x 23.6 and of course only built in 1854 it was difficult for
it to arrive in Sydney in 1853! And is not recorded elsewhere as a blockade
runner.
PACIFIC 1860 san, NEVER HAPPENED
Pacific b.1863, my typo, 336 tons - an additional
3 unintended
PACIFIC, W ss 19t ON83631, B.1879 Berrys Bay, was not lost I
e sunk, but arrested and became forfeit to the crown because of smuggling,
and the govt sold in 1904 to Jones Bros. see folio 27 of 1881
PACIFICO, W brig, B.1848 in 1852 came to aust. ownership in Hobart.
Feb.1853 Govt of Victoria, Oct. 1854 to private owners: July 1855
S.G.Henty reg Portland July 1856 returns Melb. reg and end of year sold
to Hong Kong
PALACE, MORE STUPID guesswork. W BQ, 355/339 on50878, Built 1862
Mirimichi as CONFEDERATE STAR, RENAMED WHEN BECAME BRITISH AT LIVERPOOL
IN 1869. in 1874 acquired by the Glenn Bros, merchans of greymouth NZ and
Melbourne, reg. Melbourne 22 of 1874: They sold in 1877 to Dunedin Mechants
who eventually sold in June 1886 to Henry Moss for conversaion to hulk
and in april 1929 was acq by Victorian Lighterage.
Unnecessary and ill-informed ocomment continues apace in what is supposed
to be a reference book. P
anic of 66 was real enough to those in it.
PAPANUI, B.1898 originally as a sailing ship û I do not KNOW
how such strange reports originate but it is incorrect it was built as
a steamship
Pappinbarrra, was owned by N. CainÆs Coastal steamship company,
that had commenced as a co-operative concern, it was CAIN, nothing to do
with Cairns.
PARA w BRIG, 266T on30395, b .1862 Alloa,Scotland. In 1882 came
to aust from Natal and reg in Pt.Adelaide, and aug.1884 to Jas MacMillan,reg.
Brisbane: Nov. 1890 to an accountant which suggests it was laid up or otherwise
incapacitated. In 1897 it sank in the Brisbane river and was demolished
by the Marine dept and her register closed in 1904
PAREORA ON104735, was sold to Firth of sydney in 1908
PARINGA, COMMENT FROM æfbÆ IS SOMEWHAT HIGHLY INACCURATE
OR VERY SELECTIVE ûMANY OTHERS CAN BE EASILY LOCATED Again you have
some of the most unreliable æsourcesÆ known to man!.
Paris 1873, no trace, and, as before when checking for NSW Heritage
I asked where it came from and that could ot be supplied
PARISIANA, was lost 1910, repeat 1910, even you have the crew landing
January 1911 which makes it difficult to sink eleven months later!!!.My
detail from Lloyds register
PARRAMATTA HMAS BUILT iron, I DONÆT THINK SO, STEEL WAS
MUCH BETTER IN THE 20TH CENTURY
PATEENA, built for Bass Strait Ferry, but known coal eater,and often
laid up, Union line took her to NZ after they bought tSN but there was
such an outcry she was returnd to Bass strait service until 1909 and even
then was returned to the Bass strait ferry work in emergency, such as in
1915 when needed to replace Loongana see also Aust.Coastal Passenger
Ships
PATERSON SEE ALSO Aust.Coastal Pass ships. ON32292, built 1854
Greenock measuring 326/213, altered and raised upon in 1873 = 410/260n.
Built for HUNTER River New S.N.Co. and their sydney-Hunter river passengers
and cargo service July 1871 to wm.Summerbell and others, and employed as
a collier sydney-Newcastle In June 1872, on a voyage toward sydney sprang
a leak and returned to Stockton and was beached June 1872 and repaired.
PATHFINDER???
PATRIONESS, was reported in the press as PATRIOTESS BQ
288 TONS WAS INWARD FROM Leith and berthed at Geelong July 7,1857
PATTERDALE two entries WHY?????
PAUL JONES 1877, Heavan alone knows where Loney got his information.
û mine came from American Lloydös register
PAUL PRY AND PASSENGER Watt. Well if I do not make it clear I do not
know what else to say. I reported the man trapped in the cabin was drowned?????????
What more could I report???
Pauline et Victore lost Musgrave island, probably means Mabiag
or Jervis island, but reported in contempory press as Mulgrave
PEISANDER, loss position from the british governmentÆs official
war lost list
PELICAN LOST 1888 was not converted to sail, but having been
a harbour vessel had no rigging, but when to work in the ocean it was fited
with masts and sails to assist her engine.!!! I do NOT say she had
the engine removed, why should I - as it was refitted to work as
a subsidised tug, Can no one on your staff understand shipping affairs
of the 19th century??????
The next entry if for the same vessel in 1855
PELICAn, s TSS TUG, B.1898 FOR w a GOVT, SOLD TO Geelong harour board
in 1906 and renamed G.F.Holden
PELICAN, ASHORE Mackay 1918 = I ss b.1885 for Qld
Govt,, reg. closed 1932 æsold and since converted to houeboatÆ
PELTON BANK, was a collier owned by McIlwraith McEacharn and employed
on the Newcastle-Mortlake coal run for Australian gaslight
co
PENGUIN, I ss ON47849 later 824g B.1864 Tod & McGregor,
Glasgow for G.& J. Burns, Liverpool. Bought by Union line 1879 to replace
lost Taupo for the Cook strait services of Union Line, although sometimes
on other voyages and for some time was on the North West coast of Tasmania
û Melbourne trade. Originally had been on the UK-Ireland service
PEREGRINE, see Australian Coastal passenger Ships. Iron ss ON98972,
B.1891 W/.B.Thomson & Co, Dundee for the General S.N.Co, London, sold
to Wm.Howard smith Dec.1891 reg.Melbourne sold to Moller,Shanghai, 1916.
Stranded English Channel June 14, 1917, refloated in August and taken
up by British shipping controller, sold to German shipbreakers in
1922. while originally in the Melbourne-WA service, moved to
the Queensland coastal services.
PERI, your long and uninformative comment only confuses the issue.
My reports are fully confirmed by contemprary reports etc. Although it
is clear the facts have been picked up, mutilted and twisted to suit the
aspirations, whims or fictional asperations of many doubtful writers.
PERIOD s SS 2791T BUILT FOR Howrd Smith and sold in 1946 to w.R.Carpenter
& Co, Hong Kong, and in 1947 sold and became Chinese with various
names and no further reports after 1967
PERSIA w ship 527/658 arrived melb dec 8 with 27
passemgers And had been visiting since 1851, nothing about migrant
ship
PERSIA, TWO MAIL LINERS SUNK IN ww! THE VESSEL BUILT 1910 WAS
THE p&o LINER JUST WHERE THE 1898 BUILT VESSEL CAME FROM I CANNOT
DISCOVER. ALTHOUGH THE LOSS OF LIFE SHOWN FOR THE 1898 VESSEL IS REPORTED
FOR THE VESSEL BUILT IN 1910, INCLUDING THE MASTER OF THE VESSEL
PERU, I have never heard of a steamer voyage from th east coast of
USA to Australia via the horn, they invariably came via the Cape of Good
hope!!!! More uninformed inaccurate fantasy!
PET. W SHIP, RE RIGGED BARQUE 1869 277 T THEN 268TONS, on31184,
b.1847 St.Marys Bay, Nova scotia first Hobart reg 1849 and in the mauritius
trade but sold in 1860 after lengthy lay up for whaling. Sold to
sydney 1891 apparently for demolition
PET LOST 1867 WHY TWO ENTRIES?????????//
Peterborugh w SS B. 1886 FOR Shellharbour s.S.Co, sold Aug.1905 Illawarra
& S.C.S.N.Co., 1911 to David Drake and hulked in 1911
PETREL on32661 LOST IN 1866 HAS A STRANGE ITEM IN THE MIDDLE
;lost 3 march 1849Æ?????
PETREL, 7 TONS, on53988, B.1868, REGISTER CLOSED 1917 WTH BROKEN UP,
LAST OFFICIAL OWNER TOOK CHARGE IN AUG 1878 AND WAS Thomas.Nelson
PETREL, reported lost c.1872/3 see entry above for on64361
PETREL, STEAM TUG BUILT 1895???NO OTHER REF
PETREL on108870, not owned by Robison & Norman in 1914
PEVERIL on31635,WHEN FIRST IN Australia at Melbourne in 1857 described
as 71 tons, later remeasuered = 59 tons
PEYTONA WAS built East BOSTON
PHAETON, was an american BUILT SHIP but not American owned, as is implied
in this poor rendition of facts.
PHANTOM BRIG, INWARD FROM Sydney August 6, 1852 got ashore and assisted
by Teaser and is the same vessel as on32285
PHANTOM, Ips 63/40t. ON 41100. reg shows built 1858 J.f.Dow,Melbourne
and your usual fairy story of information should read: Argus
Oct. 23,1858 conducted a trial trip Oct. 20, 1858 and now is working
on the Melbourne-Williamstown ferry. The owner being Mr.s.B.Sknner, one
time partner in the Geelong shipping agency with mr.Parker. SMH May 1859
reports her arrival sydney for the Manly ferry. And reg sydney 29/1859,
and employed on ferry duties by people who ultimately traded by 1877
as the Port Jackson steam Boat company. Sold Dec.1878 for the Watsons Bay
ferry service where it remained untl engine removed 1883 and it became
a barge. Reg closed 1885 æbroken upÆ
PHAROS, composite hull screw steamship according to Argus
March 15, 1865 and converted into a lightship for the south channel,according
to Aust.Shpg News Nov.6,1880 but apparently those plans altered and
sold Feb. 1881 and acquired by Jas Deane now said wood hull, 108.7
x 19.5 x 10/7 who in 1885 merged with others to form Melbourne Coal &
Engineerng Co trhat ended up as Melbourne S.S.Co. register says altered
in 1913. and thereafter appears as æhulkÆ
PHILADELPHIA, why would anyone imagine the first trade goods to Sydney
would be from England? It was a penal colony, and the Hon East India Company
had exclusive and extensive rights over trade in the area and in fact Philadelphia
was not supposed to visit. But unless the local authorities took
action nothing could be done, it was not possible for HEIC to prosecute
an American flag vessel. More ill-informed and unnecessary comment. Cumpston
reports Philadelphia as a brigantine that arrived Nov. 1792 that
departed Dec.7 for Canton Cumston does not list another arrival in December
with goods for sale although hOPE did have spirits in her holds
PHILLIP DUNDAS, went to Port raffles in company with col schooner
but there is no reason to suppose she could not continue a voyage onward
to south Africa? another unnecessarey and useless comment
PHILLIPINE (No SSS) W bq 311/302. ON27757, B.1860 û Wright,
Kincardine, Acq. 1885 Tasmanian s.N.Co, reg. Hobart as coal hulk,
trans to UNION Line in 1891 and broken up and burnt Tamar River
PHOEBE WRECK 1856 WAS TRAVELING FROM NEWCASTLE TO Newcastle, according
to your typesetting specialistà and we had Spitfire out of Gabo
Island, perhaps set out for, or something else, has been overlooked or
ignored in the text from which it was copied.?????????//P
PHOEBE KETCH 1884, WAS RAISED AND REPAIRED AS PER MY Ketches of south
Australia and entry my book
PHOEBE A.hearst, NO DATE GIVEN FOR LOSSS
Phoebe, b. 1850, was NEVER AUSTRALIAN OWNED, Duncan dunbar was a very
prominent LONDON shipowner û it is impossible to believe anyone with
an interest in the subject could make such a mistake
PHOENIX, former transport, B.1798, converted to hulk, Sydney Gazette
Oct.31, 1837 reports the former prison hulk in Lavender Bay is to be broken
up.
PHOENIX, W ps, Greenock is NOT in England, but in Scotland.[such statements
infuriate anyone of Scottish descent) See Australian Coastal Passenger
ships Arrived Pt.Phillip Dec.22,1852, and was acquired early 1853
by partners endeavouring to conduct a steamer service between PtAdelaide
and Melbourne which proved to be uneconomical and the vessel was laid up
in Melbourne until purchased in 1855 by Robert towns
PHOENIX, W bq, 255t on55524 B.1867 Jas.Little Pictou,NS
to Australia at Adelaide in 1874 and to E.T.Miles Hobart in1888 and probably
hulked
PIANET, COMMENT UNNECESSARY, AS CONFIRMED BY OTHERS,AND NOT JUST A
MISTAKE although as one of the worst manufacturers of errors, perhaps you
might have realised that it could be right
Piggot, ACTUALLY h.g.Pigott, see Scuttled &Abandoned ships
PILBARRA, SEE ASLO AUST COASTAL Pas Ships for additionat such as trip
to Vancouver etc.etc
PILOT 1104 TONS, WAS ACTUALLY w SCH, on31784, b,1845 Aberdeen,
114 tons later 99tt, to Melbourne in 1854 from Dundee reg. which
is your next entry.. It had been ashore at the Mersey river T heads in
sept.1866.
PILDUSKI, you continually complain about the position given for war
losses by the British government, The vessel was probably ordered
north about scotland to keep it as far as possible away from submarines
known to be swarming in the channel. These pointless criticisms show a
complete ignorance of conditions/ practices due to wartime and could drive
away potential users of this work û if there are any left by this
stage of trying to continue with such mismanaged, fairytales
PIONEER ON71779 was built at Mystic, not as shown
PIONEER STEAMER LOST NR CRONULLA IN 1852 DID NOT HAPPEN see stmr built
1872 ûthis is another self perpetuating error
Pioneer ON40202 arrived first in australia at Melbourne and reg there
in 1855,then to Launceston register in 1856, Newcastle in 1862 and Sydney
in 1865 and when built was named SUSAN & KATE DENIM WHICH ARRIVED
Melbourne Nov. 14, 1854.
PIONEER iron, CUTTER 22 tons ON41456, B.1856 Melbourne
for George Ward Cole reg closed 1876 with æbroken upÆ
PIONEER W bgn, 158t, ON48430 b.1865 by four shipwrights Melbourne who
became first reg. owners. 1885 sold Brisbane owners. And became coal
hulk at Rockanmpton for Howard Smith in 1885 and broken up there in 1907
pioneer W ss 39/26, 1873 deck housing added now 44/33
intended as ferry between Darwin and southport, left Darwin in 1874 to
return south via Newcastle and lost near Cronulla to the confusion of many
wreck list compilers.
Pioneer page 727, lost 1883, see entry for ON61044 same vessel
Pioneer ON89260, I state was lost in 1889 rr 1889 not your date
PIONEER built Fremantle 1883, reg closed 1908, no report for
a long time
PIONEER, EX rn LATER ran, SCUTTLED, WAS steel hulled, why does every
warship you name have to have an IRON hull???????? See Scuttled & Abandoned
ships
PIRATE ISS, B.1848. ARRIVED Melbourne May 1853 for sale, and in June
purchased for the Geelong-Launceston run, but unsuccessful and diverted
to LÆton-sydney trade Oct. 1854. In 1858 made a trip Melbourne-Rockhampton.
Lengthened 1851 406/285 166.8 x 22.5 x 19.3, originally 393/217n
see further detail Aust. coastal passenger ships
PISAGUA, never enrolled in Australia as a working vessel, first
reg Melbourne 1907 as a hulk
PLANET w PS, B,1854, WHEN LAUNCHED WAS SAID TO BE FOR sYDNEY Harbour
although there were sleeping berths fitted, It was altered in Jan.1855
and employed on the south coast run until despatched to New Zealand in
1856.
PLANET 56/38t, ON88974, B.1884 Andrew Smith, Raymond Terrace,
Hunter River, NSW, for service on the Hunter and nearby rivers, sold
in 1910 to Melbourne Ferries Ltd, and reg.Melbourne 93.0 x 71.5 x
6.0
PLANTER w BQ, on15355, b.1857 Gt.Grimsby 231t, to australia at Melbourne
1862: 1867 to Hobart. in 1884 to Tasmanian sn as coal hulk, reg closed
1913
PLATYPUS, I TWIN SCREW SS imported by Queensland SN Co
PLATYPUS, iron dredge, scuttled Peel Island 1926 see Scuttled and abandoned
ships
PLUTO/INVINCIBLE collison, NOT OTHERWSE REPORTED BUT IF IT DID HAPPEN
IT WAS December 1854 ss Pluto I ss 147g/1104n,B. 1853 Dumbarton,
was arriving, under canvas, from Liverpool for sale, while the bq INVINCIBLE
296 WAS RETURNING HOME TO AUCKLAND. Neither were delayed. Pluto was not
sold in Melbourne and left early Jan. 1855 for sydney where it was sold
and the buyers endeavoured to open a service to Manning river without success,
the Pluto was sent to shanghai in 1856 û see Australian Coastal Passenger
ships
PLYMOUTH with news of gold strike California, did NOT arrive
Melbourne at Christmas 1848 or any other time., There is nothing from anywhere
under master named Gould, nor any vessel from Hawaii û perhaps this
was in sydney but am unable to check but your entry completely untrue about
Victoria arrival However Bateson in Gold fleet or California, distinctly
states the vessel was reported in the SYDNEY MORNING HERALD Dec. 23 1848
reported the arrival of Plymouth. I cannot imagine just how you get hold
of such poorly reearched stoires or collections of rubbish!!!!
POCKLINGTON, was built at Stockwith on the river Trent, near Gainsborough,
apparently you do not have a good map of the British isles.
POHERUA S ss ON98061 B.1890 Middlesbro as CROYDON. SOLD TO Union
line Sept. 1890, On delivery voyage was forced to call at Albany with engineroom
trouble Nov.10.,1890 On June 18,1894 rescued survivors of the Alexander
Newton.. Scutled Feb. 9, 1924
POMARE, if the dates are correct, it took a long time for the news
to reach the press accident Jan, report December????????
POOLTA s SS on151547 b1921, BOUGHT ON STOCKS BY Tasmanian
Govt for Sydney-N.W.Tasmania service and was notoriously slow. In 1924
placed under the management of Patrick S S Co, which soon after went into
liquidation and the vessel sold in 1925 to Union S S CO who sold to Greeks
in April 1952 and then to Turskish owners, broken up under the name
ARIF at ISTANBUL IN 1961
Poonbar S tss B.1913 Murdoch & Murray, Pt.Glasgow for North coast
co. sold 1927 for proposed Hobart,Sydney-Brisbane trade laid up 1928 unsuccessful
Feb.1928 sold to Nelson & Robertson for Sydney-Qld service, and
later chartered to John burke Brisbane laid up 1946, sold 1947 renamed
SAN ERNESTO TO Hong Kong and scrapped at Hong Kong in 1951
PORPOISE of 1875 has the shipbuilderÆs name wrong,as usual. And
of course it has acquired miraculous powers - built in 1875 and working
in Townsville in 1873??????? Some confusion or misreading or whatever
û clear as mud to me!!!
PORT JACKSON iron 4 mast ship, 2212/2132 ON84362 B.1882 A.Hall &
Co, Aberdeen for w.Duthie, Torpedoed april 2,1917 180 miles north by west
from Fastnet with loss of 14 including the master.
PORT VICTOR torpedoed 47.49n x 22.02w
PORT WELLINGTON, more ill-informed comment. A well armed and heavly
protected semi-warshp, the raider, came unannounced upon a vessel with
one only 6 inch (I suspect it was only 4 inch, never came upon a DEMS with
6ö before) gun on the stern, and you suggest it may have been able
to destroy the raider û impossible, How could one single gun on a
merchant ship hope to overcome a warship fitted with a number of similar
sized guns served by professionally trained crew while on Port Wellington
with one or two DEMS ratings and the rest of the crew supposed to bring
up ammunition and lay it etc.etc., You must get your wartime information
direct from Comic cuts or believe in the tooth fairy or something,
you certainly do not have much reliable information about wartime activities,or
anything else that matters
PORTUNA, SHOULD BE CROSS REFERENCED TO CORRECT NAME, I E portenia
POSEIDON OR posidonia , MAKE UP YOUR MIND, - IT IS THE SAME VESSEL.
SEE Scuttled and abandoned ships.
POTTS & PAUL W ss 19 ON89371, B. 1885, may have suffered
an accident in 1906 but it was not fatal as it was renamed in 1910 and
was ultimately dismantled in Kerosene bay reg closed.1941
PRAESIDENT on1022240, 821G 767N b1875 Stravanger, Owners June
1900 Duncan W.Paterson & John w.Bateman, reg closed Jan.1901
sold to a chinese at Hong Kong
PRAIRIE all four entries the same vessel.
PREMAYDENA, no trace vessel this name, but as it was built in 1870
and lost in 1860 it is probably another fantasay item,
President, PRISON HULK = w. 3M SHIP RIGGED, 553 TONS
ORIG SHOWN AS 653, b.1837/8 Portsmouh New Hamshipre as HARRIET ROCKWELL,
renamed on sale to Launceston in 1850 and was formerly 88 of 1850 San Francisco.
Apl. 1851 sold to F.a.Ducroz, Hobart. sold to Vic Govt July 1852.
Argus Sept.6,1860 towed to Williamstown to be broken up.
PRIMA DONNA w BRIG 135T, INWARD FROM London,struck at point Nepean
and lost false keel sept 24,1853 .
Prince 2131G b.1854 c.j.Mare,Blackwall for General Screw Steam Shipping
Co, was sold to the British govt as a transport and never made a voyage
to Australia, and it was wrecked in the black sea Nov. 14, 1859 london
reg folio 394 of 1854
PRINCE ALBERT, I ps, ON31812, b.1852 Smith & Rogers, Govan,
Jan. 1853 to Jas. Rae, Melbourne, and on arrival trans to Raleigh bros
Jan 1856 Thos.Norton, Jan.1860 G.W.cole advertises the vessel for
Port Albert. Sept 1860 sold to F.greer Dunedin for coastal svc Dunedin
to Bluff, .Greer in difficulties with local authorities and in May 1862
it was sent to Hong Kong for sale, it was sold to a foreigner in 1863.
PRINCE ARTHUR on31751, WHY TWO ALMOST INDENTICAL, ENTRIES RETAINING
THE END OF THE VESSEL????????????????
Prince consort OF 1864, YOU SIMPLY DO NOT, OR CANNOT READ
A REPORT IN FULL. I CLEARLY SAY THIS VESSEL WAS TOWED INTO SYDNEY
BY PS Kembla. This inattention to the wording of a report crops up
so frequently, one can only believe it is a medically induced problem involing
poor eyesight otherwise it must be sheer carlessness û or inability
to understand the written word! You say that it was towed into Sydney by
Kembla then waffle on about it must have been saved etc.etc.etc. Just what
goes on in the mind of whosoever writes these things it is impossible
to comprehend.
PRINCE OF WALES w BQ 582 TONS ARRIVED SYDNEY FROM nz Jan 28,
1843 (left Pt.Nicholson Nov. 18) was in ballast, and left for Valparaiso
Jan. 30 still in ballast
PRINCE OF WALES< B.1850 LOST 1853, MIRACLES AGAIN û OR FANTASY
LAND? BUT YOU HAVE IT in an ACCIDENT AUGUST 1854. Mistaken ship??Probably!!
Oh well, there never has been much sense in entries when the the
same name crops up throughout this farrago of sheer nonsense
PRINCE PATRICK, like so many other entries two separate entries for
the same ship and same incident. Why do you continually waste
paper?
PRINCE REGENT B.1810 allegedly wrecked in 1827, returned to Sydney
March 17, 1839.
PRINCE REGENT 383 TONS DID NOT ARRIVE Sydney Jan. 3,1842 but one of
that name did arrive in Hobart 3 jan 1842. MORE CONFUSION, OR MISUNDERTANDING
ETC.ETC.I feel so sorry for whoever it is wsho cannot reafd English very
well.
PRINCESS LOST 1898? I DO NOT FIND IT IN MY COPY OF San OR ANYWHERE
ELSE
Princess VICTORIA, lost 1853, the vessel involved was NOT a tug but
a barque named Tutelina
PROMPT, ON31833 HOW ON EARTH DID YOU DECIDE IT WAS BUILT IN Tasmania??????
Bridport, Dorset was a well known seaport and shipbuilding area in 1821,
but I doubt Bridport Tasmania was even thought of! This vessel only arrived
in Melbourne in 1856 rr 1856
PROPONTIS, W ship 496 repeat 496 tons, Built 1833 repeat
1833, Medford Mas. Arrived in Port Phillip april 30, 1853 from Boston,
USA, and left May 16 1854 for Hobart. acq 1854 by TSN and converted
to coal hulk,
PROSPECTOR 235 BOTH ENTRIES THE SAME SHIP
Prosper Coulon another unnecessary comment,
PROSPERINE IS WRONG, the pilot schooner was named PROSERPINE, first
arrived port Phillip October 11, 1854 from Hobart and was sold to the pilot
company Dec, 1854 repeat 1854 and was enrolled folio 304 of 1854
thus = wood schooner 70 tons, ON40909 Built 1847 at Ipswich,Suffolk,
and until about 1862 was pilot schooner for No.2 company of pilots, sold
by the pilots and register closed 1869 with æsold foreign at
TahitiÆ
PROSPERITY lost 1902, the 1895 incident was not fatal.
PROSPERO, W 2m brig, 198tons, ON43273, B.1862 Jersey, came to
Australia at Pt.Adelaide 1869, 1881 to Hobart and ælostÆ to
O May because it was sold for use as a hulk in sydney in 1893.
PROSPEROUS, was built by John Booth, not both
PROTEUS B.1815 Java, and named æFlower of Teak, renamed
upon register London orig 254 tons, ship rigged, in 1849 described
as 3 m barque, in 1857 when enrolled Melbourne 2m sch and used as a lighter.
Known in Australian waters from at least 1831. and first owned in
sydney in Sept.1836 in Oct. 1854 acquired by Peter Hudart, of Geelong.
And in 1857 George Ward cole and reg trans to Melbourne. arrived Geelong
Nov. 8, 1853 and was thereafter employed as a ballast vessel.
PSYCHE. Ex light cruiser, for full details see Scuttled and Abandoned
Ships which gives much beter report than yours
PYRMOnt THE BUILDERS NAME MUTILATED IT WaS thomas chowne
Pyrmont of 1902 SAN official number correct, my typo see also aust.Coastal
Pass Ships for further info re trading
PYRMONT II, scuttled 1977 see Scuttled and Abandoned Ships
QQQQQQ
Quasha see æThe Adelaide lIneÆ for
full detail - I barge built 1880 south Australia for S.A.Govt, sold to
Melbourne harbour Trust 1889 as Hopper barge NO. 12, to Adelaide company
1894 and renamed etc. etc. Sold to RAN in 1943
QUEEN, I ss, see Aust. Coastal Pas Ships, built 1852, repeat 1852.
by thos wingate & Co, Whiteinch,Glasgow, ON31197 207g/137n, but this
fairytale is really strait from the Brothers Grimm. and only sometimes
approaches reality ;Arrived Pt.Phillip from Glasgow Jan 26, 1854 and was
for sale., Made at least one trip to New Zealand and was considered a potential
trans tasman mail steamer in 1854, but was not accepted. In Feb.1855 Capt.G.Doran
took charge and made a few exploratory trips to Western Districts of Vic.
Argus July 7, 1855 reported it had been purchased by Brown,Ralston &
CO, as agent for proposed Western S.N.Co. which failed to incorporate and
after the arrival of HentyÆs CHAMPION, the idea was abandoned. Dec.18,
1856 McMeckan,Blackwood & Co, purchased the vessel, and placed it in
the Bass Strait ferry service, until enlarging it and placing it on the
Melbourne-Port Adelaide run. In July 1858 when laid up and for sale purchased
for work in New Zealand but the buyer did not successfully tender for a
mail contract and the vessel returned to Melbourne for sale and nov 1859
was purchased by Hentys who were at a loss to find suitable employment
for the vessel, and at the end of 1863 they placed it on the Melbourne-sydney-Brisbane
run, without success and later in the Brisbane to north queensland trade,
again without success, and she was sold in 1864 to New Zealand yet again.
Just where do you get these fairytales??? Or do you commission them from
drunken deadbeats? I have never sson so much misinformation between
two covers.
QUEEN, on73501 well I do not know where Henderson came across
this, but the official custom house register for Fremantle gave that official
number to a vessel NAMED GASCOIGNE, folio 3 of 1878 b.,1878 meaasuring
7 tons And make no reference to any change of name
QUEEN, 71 tons, was registered as THE QUEEN,, Q V.
Queen EX natone, SEE MY COMMENT FOR Natone
QUEEN OF THE SOUTH, ON74793, was an iron hull single screw steamship,
not a paddler. And was built for the service from Goolwa to Port Adelaide
when a subvention was offered. When the subsidy was not renewed the vessel
was sold in april 1880 to the Clarence & Richmond rivers s.N.co.
QUEEN OF THE THAMES B.1870 YOU DESCRIBE AS AN AUXILIARY SCREW STEAMSHIP
BUT LATER SAY THE FIRST full POWERED STEAMER???YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH
WAYS
Queen victoria B.1806 contemporary press said part owner was Will BREND
QUEENSCLIFFE, of 1876 was built for and owned by Queensclife Steam
Boat co, until 1901 when diverted to the Gippsland trade when purchased
by A..J.Ellerker and in Nov.1902 was transferred to Lakes S.S.Co,
etc.
QUEENSLAND S SS B.1884 FOR R.Hart & CO, Maryborough, sold later
to Cleghorn Hopkins Brisbane and made gravel barge. See scuttled
and abandoned ships
QUETTA was built from IRON, not steel and was officially the
property of brtish India Associated Steamers Ltd.
QUIRAING, 1855 IMPOSSIBLE, NOT BUILT UNTIL 1882. YET ANOTHER
WILD GRAB AT SOME ILLUSION. Or loney unable to read his notes>>>>>>>????
RRRRR
Neath ex R.C. rickmers, as auxiliary barque torpedoed
March 27,1917 28 miles south by east from the Fastnet, the
master taken prisoner
RAGER WILLIE, someone has let their sexual deviations take charge here.
the name was RAJAH WALLIE
Rahra Danger Island for a vessel owned in Suva will obviously
be somewhere in the south pacific, probably in the Fiji group, and hardly
likely to be in Broken Bay>>?
RAINBOW AND Owen Glendower etc., all very dubious. Apart from
loss of Rainbow û see my comment about Owen Glendower which seems
to have vanished
Rajah Willie, - someone has had a lot of difficulty with the name of
this vessel which was RAJAH WALLIE
RANDOLPH what happened to the 3 passengers and 35 emigrants that
were also aboard, and bound for Victoria??
RANELAGH on84930, SEE ALSO Aust.Coastal Pass Ships, and it was
lost near Burnett Heads, not Island but later you prefer to say it was
at Bundaberg Also collided. with ss Konoowarra Mary River Dec.1,
1889Æ
RANGATIRA I Ss on41123 was originally 592gt, but in 1866 she
was fitted with an additional deck, causing remeasurement see Aust.Coastal
Pass Ships for full deails of service, originally on Aust-NZ run, then
later in the contract mail service between Albany and Port Adelaide as
part of a service between Albany and sydney via Melbourne.
Both Ranger entries one vessel
RANGER w 1M SLOOP: 46 tons: 1844 = cutter: 1853
2m schooner. 1858 û 42 tons.Sydney Gazette Oct. 26, 1837 purchased
for use as revenue vessel at Pt.Phillip. c.1841/1 pilot cutter Pt.Phllp
and in Sept 1844 sold to others, usually Melbourne residents who
ultimately enroll with Melbourne Customs until sold to Sydney late 1858,and
thence to Newcastle.
RANGER 11 tons b.1842. capsized BETWEEN, THE HEADS OF Port Jackson,
not within
RANGITANE, no mention of passengers/crew being landed on island etc.
see my book
RANGITIRA û SEE UNDER CORRECT NAME OF RANGATIRA
RANGITOTO 574G, on50199, MY TYPO, BUILT 1865 REPEAT 1865, but
was built in Scotland, NOT ENGLAND,(if you cannot be sure say UK and then
you offend no one) for the Panama Line,reg. London, and acq.1869 by Meckan,blackwood
& CO, for the Tasman trade
RAPID, 105 tons, built Dundee USA? Where did that come from. Dundee
Scotland is the place invoved SAN LISTED ANOTHER VESSEL SAME NAME, REG
IN Sydney, where the vessel lost of 103 was enrolled Melbourne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RAPID of S.A company why,after half a page above do we have it again????????
RAPID coastal trader 44 tns b.1838 sydney was actually the Iron Paddle
steamer RAPID, put together in Sydney from imported sections and the closing
entry of the register says Hulked, but is undated, however a list prepared
for London in 1851 said it had been broken up, so just what was lost, if
anything, in 1857 was NOT the 1838 iron paddle steamerÆ but -- the
103 ton vessel was lost in Broken Bay in 1857 which is probably where
Loney got lost
RAVEN w ps, b. 1848, was not sold and or repossessed. It
had been sent to Brisbane for the Ipswich trade but found to be unsuitable
and was returning to sydney when stranded,
Rebecca ON32215 Register closed in 1872 with wrecked date unknown.
Oriignally 74 tons, altered 1856 to 68t. sold to Hobart owners in 1847
and Melbourne in 1855, Port Adelaide in 1856 returns Melbourne reg 1859
and sydney in 1861
REBEL, is not noticed to move after Dec.11,1854, subsequent press notices
about it being in port simply an error,
RECOVERY lost 1842, as I quote contemporary press references
earlier than june reporting the loss suggest your other compilers are wrong!!!
RED GAUNTLET BROKEN UP Thursday island, registers all say owned by
Burns,Philp & CO.Ltd,
RED JACKET arrived pt Phillip 14 july 1854 on record run.
RED ROVER, aND Capt Noon. He took charge of ON31964, B.
1849, in June 1850 and was in charge for a year or two
REDBANK, w PS 79 TONS, b.1863, With the death of Robert
Towns, executors of his estate sell to Bribane shipbuilder etc. A.Muir
who re-reg Brisbane (folio 6 of 1877) as single screw steamship and the
registrar notes æformerly reg in sydney as paddle steamerÆ,
which suggests Muir rebuilt the vessel. In 1883 was sold to H.L.Moar
and partners Aug.1895 to AUSN Oct.1900 to others, and register is closed
Feb.1918 æno information available vessel is believed to have
been sunk at Marble Island off Qld CoastÆ It was originally intended
as a collier from the redbank mines and seems to have spent most of its
working life delivering coal to ships in brsbane
Redbird and or redbank, you are undecided, although REDBIRD is
the accepted name for the tug û and your very short term memory gives
the same comment about the use of ANZAC to both!!!! More carlessness
or is it just thoughtlessness?
Redbreast more miracles. Built 1963 and wrecked 1878.
Did your poorly trained monkey never look to see what keys it pressed?
I cannot brelive all this atrocious typesetting could have been performed
by a human û unless they are almost blind or suffering mental debilitaary
in some wway,
REMBRANDT. Why two entries one with a very lengty and unnecessary
comment û weÆ re definitely trying to confuse someone û
perhaps the compiler????
REMORA DREDGE, see Scuttled and Abandoned Ships for full details
and disposal
RENOWN< LOST COFFS HARBOUR 1933, PROBABLY AN ERROR FOR
REPTON
Republic, LOST 1891, Just Because a sailing ship took a cargo of coal
I do not believe it is entitled to be called a collier
RESCUE tug, another stupid observation about the name
RESCUE last item pg.767 is the same vessel as the entry immediatealy
above
RESOLUTE SAID TO BE ASHORE SOUTH CHANNEL MAY 21, = Wood
ship 786 tons,arrived Pt.Phillip May 25, 1853, and sailed for Hong
Kong July 16 no mention of stranding
RESOLUTE, w PS. ARRIVED UNDER CANVAS FROM England in charge of Pilot
James Deane, Dec.23,1863 for Resolute Steam Tug co., in 1873 to Melbourne
Harbour Trust and by 1897 to Townsville Harbour Board, who record demolition
in 1925
RESOLUTE, 37 TONS BUILT Pt.Adelaide, has already been fully covered,
we now have a reprise for some reason!!!!!!!!
RESOLUTE Broken up in Townsvile in 1925 is your tug that arrived
in 1863 from London that was sold to Townsvilel Harbour Board abut 1897
RESOLUTION, ON58086 NOW HERE IS SOMETHING, A TWO MAST barque?? THOSE
SAIL ENTHUSIASTS WILL BE AMUSED AMAZED OR BEMUSED. IT WAS IN FACT A TWO
MAST BRIGANTINE
Restless w BQ, ON54071, WAS SOLD TO HENRY Moss, for conversion to lighter
in 1888 and register closed broken up in 1902.
RESULT, vanished 1880. Quite a lot of confused reporting/reading in
your remarks. My records are from the Custom House files of the day.
RESULT, burnt 1866, which you say made 9 voyages from London
to Melbourne, yet was built probably as late as 1865 û be sensible,
it took near enough to eight months for a quick round trip.
REVENGE, KT, on32592 LOST 1862 REGISTER CLOSED 1872 æÆLOST
WITH ALL HANDS ABOUT 1863Æ
Rhea- scuttled off sydney, entierely different vessel, vide scuttled
report from official sources, see Scuttled & Abandoned Ships. That
states a former US warship filled with mines and depth charges etc.
RHYMNEY Why?? what interest to Australia????????
RIALTO, first in Australia at Melbourne 1860 ownes by Arch.Currie
& T.E.Boyd. confusion about date of loss derives from reg making
statement giving wrong date.
Although trans to Melbourne in 1860, Arch Currie was master in 1858
when it first arrived from overseas.
RIALTO, VANISHED 1920, NO TRACE IN AUSTRALIAN REGISTERS
Richard Bell, May have gone aground in 1833 but the same vessel visited
sydney in 1837, so it must be presumed she was refloated.
RICHMOND, SAN reported lost off Newcastle 1924 rr 1924, but nothing
that name registered anywhere in Australia in 1924.
RIFLEMAN, SUPPOSED 1834. There was a vessel this name brig
303 that left Sydney May 27, 1831 for Java having visited Hobart
April 2, 1831 from London which returned to Hobart Nov. 1832
from London and sailed for Lonodn April 1833 no menion of non arrival
RINGAROOMA, THERE WAS A Royal navy Vessel in Australia named
HMS Ringarooma.
I ss RINGAROOMA, on64810, BUILT 1875 t.Wingate & Co, whiteinch.
Arrived Melbourne Aug 16, 1875, 53 days out from the Clyde.
Sold the Union Line 1881 Laid up in Pt.Chalmers for five years until sold
in 1901 and became SAMOA.fate uncertain, disappears from Lloyds 1914-15
but other sources say broken up 1925. I do not know where the 1888
sale is supposed to have been made as Union Line were official owners
until 1901.
RINGDOVE, brig 176 arrived Pt.Phillip Dec. 8, 1853 from Liverpool
last reports May 1858 in collision Geelong Harbour.
RIO GRANDE, on60297 BUILT 1868 RR 1868
Rio Loge, strange way of spelling Lancashire???
RIP, reg closed 1928 æBroken up years ago last transaction
1904.
RIPPLE W kt, 29t on64379, B.1872 Benj.Davis,Brisbane Water, reg.sydney
4 of 1872, trans to Melbourne 22 of 1888 and re reg 11/1918 û so
heaven alone knows where Loney and friends got their æfactsÆ
SS OF 1872, ALREADY DEALT WITH, NOW REAPPEARS???
Ripple lugger, seal rocks, uidentified and if happened vessel was not
registered
RITA, W brig 198t B.1852 J.B.Babey. New Shoreham, sussex to sydney
1862, and by 1880 a hulk at Thursday Island. reg closed 1890 æBroken
upÆ
RIVAL(s) arived melb sept 1852 , 227 t, from Mauritrus and traded to
Pt.Adelaide and elsewhere till Oct. 1853
RIVER CHIEF, a wreck you try to find in Western Port, was salvaged,
as per your above entry for the vessel built in West Australia.- is nothing
ever read or checked in this opus???? -- what a stupid question on my part
û it is quite clear it is never even tried!!!!
ROB ROY I SS on60331 ORIGINALLY 309/200N, REFITTED 1872 û 393.
B.1867 t.WINGATE & co, Glasgow. See Aust.Coastal Pass Ships
for full details. Arrived, under canvas, from Glasgow at Melbourne May
20,1868 and placed in Bass Strait ferry, until 1869 when sent to sydney
for overhaul. And then went into the western districts of Victoria trade
with strong competition from western S.N.Co., and in 1877 began ccntract
mail services on Wst Australian coast and after serious damage by
stranding at Cossack, when refitted and repaired was transferred to the
Adelaide s.s.Company was hulked in 1901 when her engine and boiler went
into the tug URAIDLA, THE VESSEL WAS DEMOLISHED IN 1910. See Also
æThe Adelaide LineÆ for details of merger etc., that resulted
in Adelaide Company becoming official owner
ROB Roy covered at length repeated now for hulk??????????????
ROBERT BURNS, w 2M FORE AND AFT SCHOONER, 37 tons,
b.1857 Long Bay,T. 54.3 x 17.0, lengthened 1859 = 56t,
66.3 x 17.2,
ROBERT MOORE, FOR BETTER DETAIL SEE Scuttled & Abandoned ships.
Was whale chaser, not a whaler
ROCKHAMPTON, WAS DESTROYED WHEN MOORED off THE MOUTH OF THE Norman
river, - no ship of her size could get up to the town.
ROCKINGHAM, BARGE SCUTTLED, FOR FULL DETAILS, OFFICAL REGISTER ETC
SEE Scuttled & Abandoned Ships
ROCKTON Iss 1971/1198n tons, built for Australasian S N CO, which became
AUSN in 1887
ROCKTON Kt wrecked 1921, why am I confusing, I state everyone was saved
and reported how from contemporary newspaper references the press report
of May 12 being specific. I do not know just what you want before you launch
into unfounded crfticism - Rhodes, as so often happens is a bit out,
but it was the same lugger. He had the year wrong.
Roderick dhu, 163 T B.1875, SEE scuttled & Abandoned Ships
RODNEY, RIVER PADDLE, BURNT, WHY TWO ENTRIES??? Rodney, I ,ship 1510/1447
B. 1874 Sunderland for Devitt & Moore,
RODNEY DARLING û someone has gone right off. It was named RODNEY
AS ABOVE, AND DESTROYED ON THE DARLING û STILL NO EVIDENCE
OF ANY EDITORIAL PRESENCE OR CHECKING!!!
RODONDO - SEE Aust.Coastal Pass ships, 1119/915n
ROGEIA on136404 NOT AS PRINTED
ROGER TURPIE?? PROBABLY R.P.TUNNIE, b. 1906 Port Douglas, ON121555,
owner C.L.Pagel, also builder at and of P.Douglas. reg. closed 1937
æbroken up at Pt.Douglas, years agoÆ
Romoto ??? surely a misprint for Romolo??????/
RONA s SS b.1918 Sir Raylton Dixon & co MIDDLEBRO (some distance
from the Clyde!!!) BUT TAKEN BY shipping controller as hmt y2205,
June 22, 1922 ashore flat rock off auckland, Sold Feb.1956 Hong Kong,
refitted for Bornneo-Hong Kong timber trade and renamed SUVA BREZE.
APRIL 1959 TO Hong Kong shipbreakers
ROOGANAH 104/905 net ??
ROONGANAH just a mistake for the correct entry above (and donÆt
we have millions of them???_.
ROOT HOG OR DIE, Holthouse story so mUch cock and bull. IF, the owners
of the pearl shell had insurance with a reputable firm it may have been
possible to declare its value at a port where there was an agent and while
the Jardine family at Somerset were like Pooh Bah, being Lord High everything
else, I doubt any insurance company would have appointed them agent û
just another unreliable story from Holthouse and he surely had plenty/
ROSALONG, see above for correct name I e ROSALIND
Roscommon, s TSS on114066 8238/5298N b.1902 Belfast
in 1912 Houlder bros sold their NZ trade to N.z.shiping Co who renamed
the vessel and soon after sold to th Union S S Co of Nz
ROSE lost 1835, when arrived sydney from England via Rio it was
described as a cutterÆ Bach is wrong, how could it become a
lightship in 1836 when lost in 1835??
ROSE I PS. SEE AUSTRALIAN cOASTAL Pass ships., 275g/172n tons,
Loney has gone wrong again, built by Fairburn,at Poplar,London arrived
Apl,6,1841, Hunter River company changed its name in 1851 to Australasian
s.N.Co., register closed 1871 æbroken up some years agoÆ
but in 1862 a press report said to be converted to a collier, which
if done resulted in the appearance of I ss BLACK DIAMOND.
ROSE w. SCH 31T on32389 BUILT 1850 REPEAT 1850 TO Brisbane in
1865 to T.B.Ward who beame bankrupt and sold by official assignee
and soon after condemned a Maryborough but later repaired and resumed trading
but was broken up on the mary river in 1879. register closed July
1884.
ROSE & mary jan, NO TRACE. BUT WAS it à
Rosa & mary Jane, b.1864 footscray and first reg 1871 W 2m sch,
27 ton first owner P. Pidoto,Dromana, last transaction 1886, and
reg closed 1928 with æbroken up, date unknownÆ
ROSNY b.1913 had a screw each end which does not
make her twin screw. The engine simply reversed
ROTOPHOS should be RHODOPIS W kt 14t, 106248
B.1899 Sydney, reg. sydney. that register never closed.
ROVER lost 1841 Broulee is followed by another entry misdated but the
same loss.
ROVER, LOST IN Hurricane, and next entry are the same vessel, although
there is no other reference to 1892 event, and the vessel built in 1864
never had the register closed no owners changed after first enrolment,
all very dubious
ROVERÆs bride, BUILT BY Korff from material salvaged from the
wreck of CEREs, not the salvaged CEREs, which was never raised. BatesonÆs
report has nothing to do with final loss. Apart from indicating the
vessel was substantially repaired and reûrigged after the incident.
Why is it necessary to try and marry the two???? ROYAL ADELAIDE. MY DIMENSIONS
FROM Liverpool Underwriters Register for 1871 do not know where yours come
from but doubtful,at best
ROYAL ALFRED W ps ON57781 see Sydney Ferry Fleets,
Prescott. Sold 1885 for Watsons Bay run.
ROYAL CHARLOTTE, ALL THAT UNNECESSARY CHATTER about semantics etc û
quite a point when one considers the mess made in previous entries of this
publication û and it would have been IMPOSSIBLE to re-reg a ship
as british with another name in the 1820s. The law was particularly strict
. It was illegal to change the name of a British owned vessel until 1875,there
were devicies that made it possible to do so, but unlikely to be employed
on a damaged ship of 1825..
ROYAL GEORGE lost Sth Africa 1822. no one else has seen or hinted at
this loss?????
ROYAL GEORGE Pt.Phillip Nov. 11 1844, landed 24 male emigrants
from UK no mention convicts although 200 bounty migrants arrived
in Geelong 1842 that were transhipped into Regulas from Royal George. -
yet another confused, misinformed or completely wrong item from your wonderful
collection of published rubbish??? ROYAL SHEPHERD> I SS see Aust.Coastal
Pass ships. Arrived Pt.Phllip April 1, 1854.for Launceston Steam Navigatin
company 265/164, remeas 1857 when passed to people trading as Launceston
& Melbourne Stm.Nav, Co. both employed her mainly in Bass strait ferry
with ocassional trips elsewhere even to sydney when other trade fell away.
In 1864 sold to Joseph Darwent and reg. Pt. Adelaide and usually
employed in S.A.Coastal serivces and by 1871, if not before
reguar Pt.Adelaide-Pt.Lincoln ferry service and was still in that
trade when the spencerÆs gulf s.s. Co was formed in 1877 and when
that company merged with Adelaide S S Co, remained in the Prt Linclon spencer
gulf trades. In 1885 sold to sydney and ws placed in the coal trades
but not for long although reverted to collier in 1889 when acquired by
the Warburton family. and in Jan.1890 sold to w.A.Firth. OÆMay and
friends were correct, inasmuch that Paisley is in country Refrew, and for
a while the ship was engaged in some form of sanitary work, unspecified,
between 1886 and 1889 the rest of your entry,as usual, fairytales!!!
RUAHINE, I tss, ON52749 b.1865 T.& W.Dugeon,Cubbit Town,London
RUBICON, another of your miracles. Built in 1872 and involved
in an accident in 1862???
RUBY, 207 tons, your entry conflicts with register details which I
quote
RUBY ON83721 your two entries contradict each other, it was either
lost in 1893, or not, you simply do not read your own entries
û otherwise you could not produce such conflicting reports without
comment but your comments are usually wasted on unimportant, or pointless
observations And RUBY 83271, was built in 1882 according to Fremantle
Customs so where did 1863 come from???
RUNIC, lost Middleton reef was TWIN SCREW TURBINE DRIVEN STEAMSHIP
Runnymeade USED to take troops to the Swan River colony in 1840 was
bq variously quoted as 288 and 389 tons, which left Hobart april
1840 troops, arriving June 25, and then left for Calcutta
bateson says 396 built London 1825
RUPARA UNABLE TO COMPREHEND YOUR 1905 COMMENT, Built in
1906 for the ADelaide SS Co for their Pt.Adelaide spencer Gulf passenger/cargo
trades., due to wartime disrupton of shipping in 1915 employed for some
time on the sydney-Queensland passenger and cargo trade.
ON132662, sold 1919 to Hong Kong - see The Adelaide Line
and or aust.Coastal Pass ships your source very dubious at best
RUTH W ctr 12 tons built Brisbane water 1837 involved in
an accident in 1843 when driven across the harbour onto rocks in neutal
bay but salvaged, last transaction 1852, and not awarded an official
number which suggests taken out of service before 1855/6, however reg closed
1868 ænot heard of for yearsÆ
SSSSSSSS
S F HERSEY W 3 m ship on88941 ex usa 1886 to melb, millar bros,
contractors, to Hobart jan 1890, TSN, condemned 1891 and by
time USS take over TSN used as hulk.
SACRAMENTO, prison hulk = W barque 411 tons, b.1849 Trescott Maine,
arrived Aust reg at Hobart in March 1851, apparently in need of serious
repair. 111.2 x 23.3 . In Sept. 1852 owner was Henry Degraves, but he sold
to Victorian govt, and it arrived Jan. 1853 to be used as an immigrant
depot ship vide Argus but by March 1854 was described as a prison hulk
SAKERRYVORE - UNBELIEVABLE û SEE CORRECTLY skerryvore
SALACIA B.1899 , described as a yacht and registger not closed after
rereg Melbourne 1921??????
Saladin, FIRST Blue Funnel vessel on Fremantle-singapore run, reg Fremantle
1895 û see Australian Coastal Passenger Ships
SALLY govt. vessel lost 1825, described variously as brig and cutter
48 tons, built 1820 at sydney and sold to govt in 1821 and when lost
most press references say it was schooner rigged
SALLY ANN, Henty family, first noticed in early 1835 and said to be
owned by the hentys and reg.Swan River early 1836 and transferred to Launcston
register Sept.1836
SALSETTE FIRST REG Melbourne 1919, but arrived Melb. July 10,1853 from
Plymouth then described as barque 422 tons but when inscribed as a lighter
measured 185 tons,
SALSETTE p & o LOST IN ww1 WHY TWO ALMOST IDENTICAL ENTRIES????
Salween same disease û you seriously tried to waste paper,space
and time in this production
SAMSON THAT Loney mentions is the next entry, I e the vessel
purchased by Gippsland SN was employed in connection with ss ANT
And I do not list it as one thousand odd tons, just another typo in your
book for 181 tons. Full details see Australian coastal Passenger
Ships. Spent a long time in the sydney-manning river trade until sold to
Melbourne. worked as a tender in PtPhillip in 1855 in July 1866 press reports
was on the Melbourne NW Tasmian ports services
SAMPSON (SOMETIMES samson) b.1864 FOR usn, SOLD 1866 AND RENAMED Samson/Sampson,
and reg in various US ports. Acquired by McMeckan, Blackwood 1874 as hulk,Melbourne,
and transferred to USS when they acq. McMeckan Blackwood business. Sell
in 1884 to Howard Smith,
SAMUEL both entries same vessel!!!!
SAMUEL CUNARD, purchased 1841 to become a coal hulk for Port Phillip
SNCo. HAVING BEEN CONVERTED INTO A STORESHP to be stationed at Williamstown
in 1839 arrived at Pt.Hillip Nov.29,1840, having been purchased by Mr.Manning
as storeship/coal hulk for CLonmel.
SAMUEL PLIMSOLL, is doing very well built 1873 and sunk in Fremantle,
in 1845
SANCHo PANZA, SAN researcher could not find sydney registration for
some reason.
SANDFLY, Cuthbert builT these vessels to try and control the blackbirders,
not for survey work ALTHOUGH THEY WERE CALLED UPON FOR ANY NAVAL DUTY.
SANJORE, p&o HAD NO SUCH SHIP, PROBABLY YOU MEAN TANJORE?????
San pareille, I ALSO LIST AS BRIGANTINE. WHERE DOES SCHOONER APPEAR???
SANTA MARIA reportedly taking people somewhere in victoria in 1846
is a very RARE bird, nothing like that registered AND no trace of vessel
that name in VictOrian waters????
SAPPHIRE w BQ, ORIG. 255T, LATER 237, on32023
b.1845 Montrose,Scot. First to Aust. 1853 at Geelong.1855 to Crowther,
Hobart,1889 to Melbourne as lighter, reg closed 1922 æbroken upÆ
SARAH BUILT Wollongong, NOT AS PRINTED IN 1837 has incorrect folio
number as I quoted, it should be folio 25 rr 25 of 1837 and folio
24 of 1838 rr 24 of 1838.
SARAH Stranded Gellibrand Point, there was a vessel this name brig
114 tons, arrived Pt.Phillip July 14, 1858 from Auckland and returned Auck
August 11 which is the brig that name built Sydney 1848 and owned
by master Wm.Firth (Shown as in charge in 1858) from 1856 until 1863.
SARAH Ketch 41, Is the samd as vessel as talked about ON32670
SARAH on31889 I also list as 5 of 1880 LÆton
SARAH, reg closd 1882 as a lighter was = W 1m sloop clinker built 1854
Geo Dangyer,Melbourne first owner Geo Georgeson, ON36971, 22 tons.
Folio 237 of 1854
SARAH & ELIZA, was actually SARAH ELIZABETH, according Sydney press
Nov, 2 1843, which said the ship KELSO, ARRIVING FROM MACAO, BROUGHT NEWS
OF THE SEIZURE OF THE BRITISH Whaler SARAH ELIZABETH off North Coast of
Timor by Malay pirates the mate was wounded and taken prisoner everyone
else ashore cutting wood at the time escaped in boats and reached othr
whalers. the ship was burnt. No known connection with australia.
SARAH & Jane, stranded 1871 was a cutter 15 tons, owned
in Brsbane
SARAH ANN, LOST Port Fairy 1836, I agree there is some doubt about
the January vessel, but it could not be the 46 ton vessel which was a regular
trader and also listed as arriving in February. It is possible the
report of vessel that name lost in January is a complete fabication.
There is no registered vessel SARAH ANNE, in the registers
SARAH ANN ON42983, badly in error.= W bq 409t, ex Liverpool
reg. B.1863 Summerville, Prince Edward Island. June 1865 to ERisenstadeter,
and Aug, 1866 James Paterson & Company June 1899 to w.Florbes
reg closed 1917 æ broken upÆ but undewriters register for 1901
says broken up 1900, which is more likely to be correct.
SARAH ANN, w BARGE OR KETCH RIG, 34T, on31890, b. 1859
Huon river,T, reg.Hobart, till 1853 thence Geelong, 1865 Melbourne
and register closed with broken up about 1900 at Williamstown. Last reg
owner = Jane Burrell,
SARAH BEATTIE, SAME FATE ETC REPEATED TWICE??Why???
SARAH COOPER, my loss report as per her register in Port of Maryborough
Customs
SARAH HOOPER. W bq 2221 tons, arrived from San Francisco at PT.Phillip
June 16, 1853 and there is no record of departure,
SARAH SANDS, you have a remarkable knack of finding unusual events,
you have it leaving Sept. 1852, and arriving Melbourne 1851.
Are we producing a serious encylopedoia or are you writing a book about
your own experiences?. Comments such as here are quite unnecessary
and ruin the book for most people as it is a clear indication it
is not to be taken seriously. The Sarah Sands of the hotel had little
or nothing to do with the ship the name probably being selected for quite
unrelated reasons. The ship being named for the wife of one of the
owners of the Red Cross Line, who were Messrs T & J Sands. ON23921,
built 1847 HODGSON & Sons, Liverpool 1300g,932n tons wrecked
April 7, 1869, Arrived melb dec 16,1852 from lpl sept 19 then
to sydney returns melb feb 5 1853 left for Plymouth feb. 11
SARAH WILLIAMS, another Goldsmith fairy storty. Sarah Williams
2 m yawl, built 1912 fremantle 23g/11n. may have made a lengty voyage in
1925, but was still alive and working when sold to Brisbane in 1967 according
to Fremantle custom registers
SAROS both items the same ship
SARSFIELD, I QUOTE FROM HER REGISTER WHEN I GIVE THE RIG, BUT
OWNERS/MASTERS ETC, COULD AND SOMETIMES DID ALTER THE RIG WITHOUT ADVISING
AUTHORITY
Saxonia, I ss as usual ASN has been mutilated û must
be some bug somewhere which will not allow proper spelling, bought
by Australasian s.N.Co, to prevent others using it against them and they
thought it would suit the sydney-Rockhampton trade. Having purchased
the vessel ASN sold in 1869 to Wm.summberbell, well known owner of colliers
on the Newcastle-sydney trade who employed the vessel in that trade but
following his bankruptucy and the settlement of that situation and his
death it was sold in 1896 to Newcastle Wallsend Colliery the owners when
lost. Got ashore at Terrigal May 1871 but was eventually refloated.
Was built for the Dutch cattle trade between Holland and UK, then went
to the Mauritius in the same trade, taken to Melbourne by Capt.hadley
who left her there to join the confederate warship shannondoah.
SCHNAPPER, dredge Bishop Is, see Scuttled and Abandoned ships
SCHNEIDER, barge at Port Elliott? No one else knows about it.
SCOTIA b.1841 on31545, ORIGINALLY MEASURED 112 TONS
Scotsman, TWO ENTRIES WHY, NOTHING DIFFERENT IN EITHER//??
SCOTSMAN CTR 34T ON101706 MAY HAVE FOUNDERED BUT WAS QUICKLY Salvaged
and transferred to Fremantle in 1896 Built 1893 North Geelong and
sold to a foreigner in 1903 and register closed
SCOTTISH BARD has a weird story about the Scotish Line being
awarded a contract to build ships etc etc., they certainly did and had
a contract to convey migrants but I doubt the contract ordered any ship
constructionààà.
SCOTTISH HERO, S ss B.1895, chartered for Australian owners from
1897 till 1899 and reg/Mellbourne û see Steamships Colonial West
australia
SCOTTISH KNIGHT, of 1880 most likely, I bq 916 b.1876 owned by McIlwraith,
McEacharn
SCOUT s SS B.1885, MAY HAVE SUFFERED AN ACCIDENT IN 1887
but it recovered because it went on until scuttled off sydney in 1932,
see Scuttled & abandoned Ships or sydney Custom House register or your
later note re scuttling û as usual no checking of entries
SEA BIRD, on316660, b.1851, WHEN FIRST REG. 1856 = 17T 39.2 X 11.0
X 4.8 WHEN re-reg now 13 t 40.5 etc lost 1895
SEA BIRD lost Bird Island, as the vessel was capsized and
driven south there is no reason to suppose she was going to Sydney û
more pointless ILL-CONSIDERED comment!!!
SEA BIRD lost 1916, Laurieton is a small village on the shore of Camden
Haven, despite your incomplete description
SEA BREEZE, LOST 1864, I HAVE CORRECT FOLIO NO, No 2 as printed is
for a vessel named A H Badger
Sea breeze OPERATING OUT OF NORTH QUEENSLAND IN 1889/90 WAS = w
2M FORE AND AFT SCHOONER, 48 TONS, on78361, b.Auckland 1878 and from
1884 until 1890 owners were Brednahur & Peel, of Daintree Qld, although
reg Sydney as folio 87/1884 Which is your next entry. As burnt cooktown.
SEA RIPPLE, C. 2m sch, B.1867 Footscray,Vic. All
other chatter irrevelant
Bottom two entries page 817 same vessel.
SEA WO, was REGISTERED AT Fremantle as
SEE WHA 8 TONS AND OWNED IN ROEBOURNE, as you mention later
Seal scuttled Tanglooma see Scuttled & Abandoned ships for full
detail and date of sinking
SEBASTAPOL. You question owned in cork,Ireland Do you know of another
port named CORK???
SECRET the vessel this name in Victorian waters till 1904 was built
1865 at Williamstown, ON53969 and therefore same vesess lost in Wa
in1904
SECRET top of page 819 is the vessel earlier reported lost in
WA in 1904, do not know where this incorrect report comes from but it is
very badly wrong.
SEESTERN, another stupid comment. The vessel went missing in 1909 and
there is no reason to question supposed wreckage found in 1911 even if
the vessel was only declared missing late in 1909.You simply to do not
understand what is written as is clear from absurd entries so often in
this mess.
SELCIRKSHIRE, another mutilated spelling for a vessel and only quoted
by people usually wrong, why include it at all,???
BREEZE lost 1840s, more problems in understanding my use of the English
language - why I do not know - it seems clear enouh to anyone else. But
if you checked with your entry for Breeze you would know what was
going on, although the confused mess for Breeze doesnÆt help anyone
much
SEMINOLE, W bq 1442tons ON112519, reg.sydney 1901 by Hy.H.Henderson,
as a hulk reg Pt.Adelaide in 1903 by Stevedoring & Shipping agents
for German vessels Port Adelaide, later W.Waters reg. Closed 1910 broken
up so some of the more æexcitingÆ story seems to be wrong
or out of order
SEPHINA TULLA, DID NOT ARRIVE ANY VICTORIA PORT IN 1853
OR UP TO 1860, FIRST REG Australia at Melbourne in 1859 by
sydney auctioneers, in Aug. 1865 to Resolute Steam Tug Co and probably
hulked as reported a lighter in Argus of April 1865 register closed 1882
with broken upÆ ON36952
SESA full detals and date of scuttling see Scuttled & Abandoned
Ships
SETTLERS FRIEND Loney 1881 not ketch that name in register could
possibly be stranding of river steamer that name????????
SHACKAMAXON, 1119T W 3M SHIP b.1851 Philadelphia owner Jos.Heap, reg.
Liverpool arrived Pt.Adelaide Jan. 19,1853
SHAMROCK, I ps, B.1841,brISTOL FOR Hunters River Sn co arrived sydney
Oct. 15, 1841, error in arrival date being confusion between arrival and
commencing work. Which was Oct. 28,1841 to the Hunter,
made first steamer visit to Moreton Bay for owners in Feb.1842 and
in 1843 despite many other mistaken claims, she began trading to Melbourne
in place of Seahorse, damaged in Tamar, When first arrived and reg. shown
as 201t but upon new measurement process was declared 294g tons û
see Aust.Coastal Pass ships. Why do you enter it again a few entries down???
SHAMROCK, tug lost 1911, confusion among reports, but register
says Camden haven so correct to read that
SHANDON W ps, arrived Melbourne April 24, 1854 ON17877, 186/112n B.1839
repeat 1839 Napier, Glasgpw, in Australia always owned or managed by
J.Anderson who with others bought it in Glasgow in June 1853 and brought
it to Australia. but registration never transferred remaining in glasgow.
See Aust. Coastal Pass ships, and soon after arriving began in the Geelong
trade, n 1858 and 59 was in the Melbourne Port albert trade, although Anderson
tried to obtain a mail contract for a NZ coastal service in 1858. When
the iron Thistle was placed on the Port albert trade he decided to send
the vessel to far east for sale - had Anderson persevered against the Thistle
he would have retained the trade because Thistle was wrecked soon after
entering the Pt albert trade. The last word about her is in 1864
when in the Ningpo trade
SHANDON OF 1864, Heaven alone knows where Loney came across that
piece of unbelievable material
SIBERHORN, is not correct, see SILBERHORN<
Sibly, ACTUALLY sybil q. v Loney often gets confused by his typoraphicl
mishitgs and believes they are real.
SILVER CLOUD, , as usual you have renamed Union SS co of NZ as united
shipping, just how or why or when you made this startling decision is beyond
my comprehension but it appears throughout!!!. It was broken up,
in 1932 officially at least ON68550, first reg Australasia,
at sydney in 1877, then Napier in 1877, Auckland 1888, sold to Union
company of NZ Ltd,1908 and made hulk at Hobart and register
closed
SILVER STAR believed lost 1908 is the same as vessel immediately previous-
last entry this name on page 827 identical with an earlier entry
- just why will you not check what you publish and stop making a laughting
stock of the editor???????/
SIMLA built as an iron SCOW STEAMER, a most unusual typo amond many
that constantly appear herein
SINGAPORE, visiting Pt.albert, arrived Feb.13,1841, barque
capt.Hamilton
SIR DAVID OGILVY why the incorrect addemdum after you state the true
information above??????? You make every effort to confuse anyone
trying to consult this extremely poor publication
SIR HARRY SMITH, bq 408 arrived Melbourne March 29, 1851, sold
for police block ship off St,Kilda Sept. 1855. but I think the identificaitnis
incorrect. That range of offical numbers not used in Melbourne and as it
was a hulk by the time official numbers introduced it is unlikely
to have had one issued - someone has grabbed the wrong identification
SIR DUDEY DU CHAIR, has become mutilated
SIR JOHN BING - WHEN FIRST ENROLLED SYDNEY IN 1845 TONNAGE =
169 TONS, WHEN RE MEASURED LATER GIVEN AS 167 APPARENTLY NO
ONE IN YOUR COLLECTION OF JUNK KNOWS THAT THE ACT REGARDING MEASUREMENT
WAS SEVERELY ALTERED N THE 1850S AND THE SAME SHIP WHEN REMEASURED PRODUDED
DIFFERENT MEASUREMENT DETAILS OF THE HULL AND CALCULATION OF THE TONNAGEÆ
Sir john Harvey, AS SO FREQUENTLY IN THIS EPIC, THE REPORT IS UP THAT
WELL KNOWN CREEK SEE Australian coastal Passenger Ships.
W ss 559g 438n British ON6087 Built 1852 for Boston owners, sold
and reg sydney in august 1853 for proprietors of NSW COAL & Intercolnial
SS Co and employed in the Sydney-Melbourne trade very intermittently suffering,
no doubt, from the poor reputation acquired by American wooden steamers
following the disaster of Monumental City. Sent overseas in 1855 looking
for a buyer, and in October 1857 when in Rotterdam was sold to Geo Hopcroft
of London, renamed CHASE AND ALTERED INTO A whaler and sealer, and
as such was crushed by ice in Davis Strait, August 5,1860 etc etc
I do not know how the Crimean war crops up but then so much twaddle appears
in this so anything may be said without credulity. I am still utterly amazed
to find that you can gather so much unreal rubbish and appear to believe
it!!!!!.
SIR JOHN YOUNG, w ps, 49/29 tons built for sydney ferry.
Sold 1869 to Maryborough owners and registstation supposed to be
transferred but not done and fate unknown û see my æ Port of
MaryboroughÆ.
SIR ROBERT PEEL, built sunderland in 1841 which is foruntate because
you, with your miraculous powers, have it built in 1847 and lost in January
the same year so it must have been transported by magic û as
so often happens there is aboslutley no sense in some of the statements
placed on paper in this torrent of bad taste and carelessness.
SIR WILLIAM McPHERSON, A HARBOUR MASTER OF Melbourne Harbour Trust
û just what does that mean?? Was he a harbour master of the port
of Melbourne, or simply given a title to shut him up? Or was he the local
office boy? You may claim I do not make things clear but some of
your reports are beyond understanding!!!
SIR WILLIAM MOLESWORTH was converted to coal hulk upon
sale in 1853 and custom register closd 1876 æbroken up date unknownÆ
but when the fire in 1871 was reported it contained the remark that Capt.Deane
had recently built a cottage on the deckà.
SIR WILLIAM WALLACE, A WHALER FOR MANY YEARS? Lost when on coastal
work. arrived Hobart for sale in 1848 and was acquired by Brown & Co,
large merchants and shipowners, folio 37 of 1848. and another of
your ægoodÆ reports has mixed her up with the whaler of that
name owned in sydney from at least 1836, until broken up and reg closed
in 1851. Brown and Co sold in 1856 and when
re reg it became 1 of 1856.
SIR WILLIAM WALLACE< STEAMER = 44 TONS BUILT 1891 D.Drake,Sydney,
for the Wallace family sho operated harbour tugs in NSW
SISTERS LOST nz APRIL 1852, -- HAS COMMENT ABOUT ARABIA AND LOSS OF
SOMETHING IN smh March?????
SLAINS CASTLE, bq, 504t, arrived Pt.Phillip Jan. 24,1851 left
London sept. 28, 1850
SLIEVEMORE, does not exist but there was SLIEVE ROE
Snapper lost pt.phillip 1840 no vessel this name noted
in the area
SNIPE disappeared 1826 why two entries???
SOBRAON. Among my extensive files I have NO reference to her
being intended as a steamship!
SOCORTA another unsolved mystery by compilers of SAN, no evidence
could be found for me
SOMERSETSHIRE, ON56831 Built 1867 Money Wigram & Sons Blackwall,
sold 1881 Lost in 1898
SOPHIA - paddle tug, built A.White cowes vide Melbourne register
of folio 234 of 1854 35 tons burthen, 98g/ 54n, ON32545 Arrived
Pt.Phillip from Gibraltar, Oct.30,1853. sold to Port Adelaide in 1872 and
sold to Melbourne Oct. 1878 etc..
Returned to Pt.hillip May 1855 after a trip to Newcastle and
while probably offered for sale was not sold.
SOPHIA, OWNED BY Robt Towns in 1853 probably - W 3m bq, 335t
built in France, and named FLANDRE, RENAMED WHEN REG SYD IN 1854,
AND THE VESSEL SOLD AT Calcutta in 1854.
SOPHIA JANE, HERE WE GO INTO FAIRYLAND AGAIN. It was not the
first steam link between UK and Australia but arrived from Cape Town where
it had been for sale but there was not enough money available and so came
to NSW looking for LOCAL work. And certainly DID NOT return to England
û just where do you get this rubbish from???? IT was not the first
ship to steam in Australia which was the SURPRISE, WHICH YOUR HOPELESS
CONTRIBUTOR KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT û THIS IS A SUBJECT THAT HAS BEEN
COMPLETELY COVERED IN MANY OTHER, MORE RELIABLE PUBLICATIONS INCLUDING
asr!!! You most certainly DO NOT read what you print. You say æmay
have returned to EnglandÆ and then prattle on about it being scrapped
locally etc.etc. Hopleless useless and senseless.!!! If you would
really want to know about it perhaps you could spare the time to look at
Australian Coastal Passenger ships and avoid such stupid reports!
SOUTH AUSTRALIAN - sa GOVT SCHOONER, WHICH IS REALLY
ANOTHER OF YOUR COMPILERS MISREADING OF FACTS, THE INCIDENT PROBABLY REFERS
TO THE sa GOVT Schooner which happened to be named YATALA!!
SOUTH AUSTRALIAN was owned by Devitt & Moore, just where are we
going??? you have already placed Capt.bruce and family on CITY OF ADELAIDE,
WAS NOTHING EVER CHECKED>>>???? (of course not, this is absolutely clear.
SOUTHAMPTON in Port Jan. 1860 was the Blackwaller of 1050t
that had arrived in December.
SOUTHBOROUGH, more nonsense. A torpedo fired off Perth in 1918 û
the upheaval/hysteria resulting would still be reverberating û what
a stupid.thoughtless remark.
SOUTHERN CROSS, I ss B.1863 (11) J. & g.Thomson, Glasgow, 641/
343, three mast barque rig, originally and acquired by Wm.Rout and partners,
Hobart, who tried to sell the vessel at Melbourne Oct. 1867, but failed
and was then purchased by Tasmanian S.N.Co., eng. of 120hp. Lengthened
and new engine installed 1878 now 779g, and eng 150hp.
SOUVENIR, sunk 1860, a small vessel, and you add an incident involving
a large vessel in 1879?? Pointless,senseless and editorially insane and
with the way you have wasted so much paper in this book why not give it
another entry, which in this case would appear correct
SOVERIGN, W PS SEE Aust. Coastal Pass ships, built for J.H.Grose,
who sold to Hunter River company in Oct.1842 following a freight
war between them
SPARROWHAWK, IN May 1876 sold to Wm.MORELEY, of Melbourne, a coal factor,whose
business was acquired by Huddart, Parker & CO, then hulked June
1881 and register closed 1917 with broken up it was sold c.1895 to
J.OSullivan probably for demolition
SPARTAN INCORRECTLY SHOWN BUILT IN 1853 IN UNDERWRITERS REG WAS ACTUALLY
= w BRIG, 223T on42986, BUILT 1863 RR 1863 Grand River, PEI, and in 1866
acquired by Wm.Andrews,reg sydney folio 75 of 1866 who took as partner
W.G.Laidley in June 1870 and the vessel was wrecked in the China Seas Sept.
19,1872
SPECULATOR, w ps believed to be first steamer CONSTRUCTED in WA built
by t.W.Mews, Mt.Eliza,Perth,
SPEEDWEL,, BUILT Cork England, you certainly do like to stir up the
British and the Irish. Where, in England is Cork? It may be
considered to be involved in Gt.Britain, so long as you do not talk to
any Irishman, as well as demonstrating an appallingl lack of knowledge
about geography in the northern hemisphere.
SPEEDY, on27770 sold howard smith june 1872 and huked, 1891 to
j r Clarke and others reverts howard smith june 1901
SPENCER, all that yackkayakka about when lost. The Argus Jan,
24, 1854, reprinting the letter from the Captain, states it was 60 miles
to the eastward of Port albert, so wherever and whatever, should
not be the basis for such a long disatation about nothing importan.t Your
pre-occuptaiton with petty Victorian incidents makes the rest of the book
almost worthless for historical reearchers.
SPHENE OWNED BY hOWARD sMITH, Australian steamships
from 1919 till 1935,
SPITFIRE BUILT. BY Cuthbert, transferred to Queensland Navy??
Unlikely as there was none, it was transferred as government vessel, and
was employed in many capacities until sold out of service. It was always
a qld government vessel never considerd a naval unit, having lost its gun
before trans to Qld.
SPRAY on10285 HAD wooden HULL NOT IRON
SPRINGBOK, on39343, said to have arrived in Geelong in 1854 is the
wrong ship. It was first reg Melbourne folio 41 of 1866 by her master
Henry Harrison, who in November 1872 took his vessel with passenger from
Sandridge, bounf for northern territory gold rushes, and it was reported
missing have left Newcastle. But it turned up at Port Darwin after a 40
day voyage, when about to leave for the south again and
discharge some cargo at roper river, which was done, then toward the end
of January dragged anchors and went ashore near Maria Is., bumping badly
but was refloated and resumed an erratic course with the owner/master apparently
either mad, drunk, or trying to wreck the vessel. Upon arrival at Somerset
a naval court was held March 8 -11th 1873 to hear charges brought
against the captain, and the court found he was unable to continue in command
and the board then appointed sub.lt Waters of HMS Basilisk to take the
ship to Brisbane, where it arrived may 11 after a very protracted voyge
when scurvy and disintary appears while the vessel was fighting
the monsoonal weather. In Nov. 1874 was acquired by Paterson & Co and
made a coal hulk
ST.GEORGE, is wrong name it was SIR GEORGE which you have already recorded.
More poor reading of notes, or whatever from your excellent compilers
St.Kilda built 1868 see Scutled & Abandoned ships for correct
detail of hulk and abandonment ON60367, builers J.fullerton
& Co, reg Melbounre 1868 by Spence Brothers, merchants of Melbourne
and Greymouth New Zealand thence various owners in N Z until reg Auckland
19o8 and in 1910 sold to sydney owner, but reg not transferred, hulked
in 1911.
ST MAWES CASTLE, was built at Hayle, a town in cornwall
ST.VINCENT, lost NZ in 1869 you have wrong detail about builder
AND AS SO FREQUENTLY HAPPENS YOU HAVE GUESSED WRONGLY, THE MIGRANT SHIP
St.Vincent of Devitt & Moore had nothing to do with this vessel
STAR cutter 10t b1838, you have forgotton to put down the fate of the
vessel
STAR W ps B.1852. June 1853 sold to Melbourne about to depart SMH June
4, 1853, returns sydney having been owned by Geo.D.Gill, August
1855..
STAR< WSS 59/40 BUILT Devonport, not Davenport which is what
you sit upon being a settee. The vessel was lengthened when transferred
to Hobart in1906 etc.etc.
STAR OF ERIN, WAS LOST NEAR waipapa light not as printed
STAR OF EVE was lost 1865 repeat 1865, not 1863
STAR OF JAMAICA, NO RELIABLE REPORT OF LOSS DISCOVERED
Star of the north in 1893 drifted out to see what?? You state
it went to see but do not say what it went to see!!!
STAR OF THE PEACE?? MOST UNUSUAL, NORMALLY RESERVED FOR us SHERIFF
MARSHALL, AND WHERE, OH WHERE IS Yatala Harbour in SA?????????
START w SS LOST MELBOURNE- FREMANTLE, YOU HAVE THE WRONG
DATES û SEE PRESS REFERENCES QUOTED
Stefano, STRANGE USE OF ENGLISH LANGUAGE. It was from Cardiff
with coal so why say otherwise and you do not quote the details I
have taken from the continental Insurance register of builder and owner
û so much confusion apparent but I shouldnÆt be surprised,
it appears in great profusion throughout
STRINGRAY how unusual!, wrong name!!! See STINGAREE in scuttled &
Abandoned Ships, put down in 1966
StIRLINGSHIRE w BARQUE (NOTBRIG) 217 T EX Sydney sept. 24, arrived
Pt.Phillip Oct.5, 1836 with HMS Rattlesnake next day. In sydney arrivals
is shown as a brig
STORM BIRD, B.1854 lost in 1916 You have captured some amazing flights
of fancy - or sheer ignorance!!! oldest working steamer in world ha ha
ha what about, for instance,Edina??? For facts see Aust.Coastal Pass ships.-
I ss 96/67t; 1861 = when converted to sail: 1883 = 217/137 lenghtened
and now 130.3 x 19.6. arrived Melbourne Oct. 13,1854 in charge of part
owner and immediately put into the Pt.Albert trade and a company formed
for the trade in 1857. and sold to Dunedin owners in May 1861,but was unsuitable
and sold to Wellington and engine refitted
STORMBIRD Melbourne ferry = Wood not Iron ss 75/54 b.1901
sydney reg melb 1904 lengthened 1904 75/54 when sold to Orbost Shipping
Co who sold in 1911 to Sydney owners and sent back to NSW, etc etc
STRANGER ON48629, you have left out the name of the township where
the vessel was constructed. And have the wrong official number û
more lack of concentration???
STRANGER on74660 you report it built in 1872 but launched in 1876?????????/
STRATHALLNI - p&o SUDDENLY GONE VERY ITALIANO. ????
Strathcona, lost 1915 û you appear to have overlooked the facts
as I set them out. your compiler has got it very wrong.
STRATHFIELDSAY bq 478 ARRIVED HobArt August 11,1834 with 286 free female
emigrants from London. GREat crowd of men attended while tHey landed by
boat, but many of BOTH women & MEN were iNsulting and arrived
Pt.Phillip august 30,1841 from London 259 bounty immigrants
STRATHINORE, no P&Ovessel that name,ever existed, bad typing, poor
reading or what???
STRATHLEVEN< CARGO OF bEEF LEFT Sydney and was arranged
by T.S.Mort à
STRATHMOrE Iron shp built in 1875, once more a miracle as it was wrecked
in July1874!!!! And distress signals sighted Jan. 1875??? Strange the press
thought that as in 1876 - Charlwood as usual raves on about something
he obviously knows nothing about û your contributors are of an highly
inventive type/
SUAKIM, date departed left out, why
SUCCESS IRON ketch EX BARGE WAS PART OWNED BY Adelaide MILLING
& Merchantile co not mining
SUCCESS BARGE, EX hmas SEE Scuttled & Abandoned ship for
better disposal
SULTANA Hervey Bay Feb. 1866 û see Port of Maryborough
= 495 passengers landed, w ship 1308t, B. 1853 St.Johns NB,
owners J.Baines & CO, reg. Liverpool
SUMMER ROSE, why two entries??????????
SUNBEAM 443T on20477 BUILT 1857 kirkaldy not as printed
for London owner, sold Wellington 1875 to Melbourne 1886 Huddart,Parker
and others, and converted to coal hulk. It is unfortunate for your story
that Outer Harbour Pt.Adelaide was not built until 1908-9, so what happened
in 1879 I do not know reg closed 1910 æabandoned North ArmÆ
SUNBEAM STM YACHT BUILT 1861 YOU LIST FULLY THEN A FEW SPACES
DOWN LIST IT VAGUELY AGAIN why??????????/
Superb W BQ 535 T ARRIVED FROM GREENOCK Dec.5, 1839 and
sailed for Sydney Dec.20 see Migrant Ships for South Australia for full
detail
SUPERB W ship 524 tons, from Baltimore MARCH 25, 1854, WHEN LEAVING
THE CREW MUTINIED AND WERE PUT IN IRONS SO THE VESSEL COULD PROCEED, AND
OF COURSE THEY WERE ABOARD - TO BE RELEASED WHEN AT SEA, HOW ELSE WOULD
THERE BE ENOUGH CREW???? AND IT HAD CLEARED FOR Callao, not madras Capt.S.Prentiss
û you just do not known anything about early shipping matters,practices
û an ignorance which continually is revealed through this horror
publication
SURPRISE - AT IT AGAIN BUILT IN 1803 AND RENAMED IN 1802???????????//
Surprise w ps, B.1831 Sydney as ferry Parramatta river, 58.0 x 9.8
x 4.9 and registered as measuring 18 tons burthen 45 gross. Left for tas
Jan. 7 under canvas and arrived Feb.1,1832 and her first trials under steam
anti date those of Sophia Ann, as noted previously Custom reg closed 1845
æbroken upÆ. It is often claimed converted into a schooner
named ANNA JANE, BUT THIS CANNOT BE CONFIRMED AS WHEN THAT VESSEL WAS REGISTERED
IT WAS DESCRIBED AS A NEWLY BUILT VESSEL ALTHOUGH IT IS POSSIBLE SOME OF
SURPRISE TIMBERS WERE USED/
Surprise LOST Cape Bossut, why two entries????????
SURPRISE 90 tons, ON59505 first reg Sydney 1868, having previously
been owned in Papeete
SURPRISE w AUX SCH, b. 1900, 88G/64T ENG.REMOVED NOW SCH
RIG, 88G/79T. MASTER WHEN STRANDED IN 1904 A,H,Fletcher,
when lost in 1907 J.T.Gallienne and of course you have the wrong tonnage
SUSAN THE CUTTER OR SLOOP TRADING FROM Pt.Philip to Port albert
etc., in early 1850s was the vessel owned in Hobart and lost in 1865.
and from 1848 was owned by Charles McShane.
SUSAN, w KETCH BUILT 1851 (AT Hawkesbury River) and enrolled 68 of
1851 repeat 1851 register closed ælostÆundatedÆ
SUSAN GILMORE, details in my book from the American Lloyds register
of ships
SUSSEX of Money Wigram was built at their own shipyard in Blackwall
London, they were never, in any way, at any time involved with Southampton
SUVA, WE STILL CANNOT SPELL australasian, when it comes to that particular
shipowner. Taken by Admiralty July 1915, armed and sent to patrol
Arabian Gulf, and red sea returned and in 1919 took Lord Jellicoe
on a tour of NEW Guinea
SWALLOW, you succeeded in wrecking at Swan Is,, in 1922, appears a
little later in a Loney fantasy about being built in New Zealand (never
heard of Wellington on the Murray in SA????) of course not
SWALLOW one time train ferry at Grafton, for full detail see
Scuttled & Abandoned ships - .
as so often the case in this disaster û when faced with two or
more ships of the same name catastrophe takes control - SWAN. YOUR
INTRODUCTION AND COLLECTION OF MISINFORMATION OR INABILTY TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SO CALLED RESEARCHERS WROTE appears in the worst cocktail
yet to be printed û FOR INSTANCE the æSWAN which arrived in
Hobart in 1837 was in fact named SWAN RIVER PACKET BUILT IN Bombay in 1801
AND nothing to do with the SWAN which became a pilot vessel. That one arrived
from Liverpool July 18,1853 and was said to be 40 tons, although when registered
as folio 174/1853 (MY TYPO 1854) it was said to be 36 tons. That vessel
was built in Waterford, Ireland in 1845 and was wrecked in NZ in 1865.
The SWAN, run down by ss Queensclife was built in tas in 1862 and stranded
apollo bay in 1882 and was first registered melbourne Jan.1868 by J.B.Lock
I cannot, from your very confused report, decide who has gone mad with
this concotion but it surely is a lovely exhibition of the sort of rubbish
your collection of misinformation contains. You then follow with
a catalogue of MORE misinformation. And the whole pile of rubbish
is so mangled it would be better to toss it out as it only demonstrates
your foolish acceptance of misinformation in lieu of a little checking
of readily available material. All the other refs to Lock etc., are
for the same vessel built in 1862. He was associated with a Janson who
was owner for a while of the vessel. Had you taken the time to consult
the various arrivals books you list in the biblography but have apparently
NEVER used, you would not need to make such a foolishly stupid report.
And your Swan(4) entry is mixture of all the others above û
how on earth can you expect anyone to believe this pile of rubbish through
their laughter, is beyond belief, although it is highly unlikely any person
seriously interested in maritime history will have suffered this concoction
this far. There was NO swan built in France arriving anywhere in
1837 û that is just sheer speculation from someone who took absolutely
no care to try and see what did arrive. The Noble character was obviously
too lazy to check properly û there was a state library in Melbourne
even is his day - and needs to have his brain read. û he didnÆt
know what he was looking at but wrote what he wanted to have happen probably
taking it from another unimportant. secondary source, and should be dismissed
as utterly useless.
SWANSEA w SS B.1877 and suffered the accident on its delivery
to Sydney where it was intended to be employed on the Watsons bay Ferry
service, it had a long life and was renamed Federal in 1901
SWIFT 129 YOUR PATRONISING CORRECTION OF Capt,GwatkinÆs
name is further evidence of your unwillingness to consult books you
list and is uncalled for. The family are frequently mentioned in early
Tasmanian records such as shipping arrivals etc.
SWIFTNESS W steamship when it arrived in Melbourne for
Victorian Lighterage Company, and was still steam when arrived in Hobart
Oct. 4, 1956, but re-engined in 1958 completing trials in January
1959
SWORDFISH on38811, LAST OWNERS WERE Rooneys Ltd, Townsville, and custom
house register says abandoned at Maryborough 1919
SYBIL lost rockhamton in 1858 is the same ship you later list
as lost off NSW which you so quaintly and patronisingly observe Rocky was
in NSW when this happened
SYDNEY on69743 Sydney OWNERS Thomas Cowlishaw, rr cowlishaw, not as
printed
SYDNEY hopper barge ex City of Brisbane, for full detail
see Scuttled & Abandoned ships
SYDNEY SS OF Melbourne company I see you have decided that Tasmanians
do not know how to spell Devonport and insist it is DAVENPORT
Sydney packet, OF 1826, Arrivals reporting from press says
departed from Hobart for Macquarie island once in 1826 but did not
do so from Hobart in 1825??
SYLPH, ON32395 your infallable compilers are at again, this vessel
was constructed by Henry Ed.Fisk, at Brisbane Water. The SYLPH built in
1845 in North Sydney was sold sold foreign at Fiji in 1850. and was said
to be dandy rigged Mr.Field acquired the vessel Feb.1869 according
to her register the SYLPH, built by Benj.Davis was constructed in
1861 û which demonstrates how some ædippersÆ into
the records are led astray. û see your next entry for the 1861
effort
SYLVAN, IS CORRET BUT IS FOLLOWED BY A VESSEL WITH FULL INFORMATION
FOR Sylvan but with name mutilated.i.e, SYLVANE without an engine, although
I do not have any reference to that happening, you should see my Port of
Maryborough. No referene to incident in Brisbane river register closed
sunk at moorings Newcastle dec. 1924, having been convertd to hulk in 1921.
the last owners were J.A.Callen, and in the 1920s the family abandoned
a whole small fleet on the bank st Stockton as business declined.
SYLVIA û PRESS AND SYME HAVE IT AS sylvie sch 46 tons inward
from Liverpool Feb. 19,1855 and outward for Ncle June 26 Capt. H.Gordon
and returned from sydney at geelong sept 8,1855 now 47 tons
and returns sydney Oct. 15
SYREN, no ref to any of the incidents.
TTTTTTTTTTTTT
TAGLIAFERRO< I SS on85156 SEE Aust.Coastal Passenger
Ships, was very frequently engaged in the Melbourne-WA passenger
trade during the gold rushes
TAIAROA, B.1875 ACQ BY Union Line 1876.
TAIAROA, loss co-ordinates as supplied by official war loss list but
the Graf Spee was always publicly reported working in the southern Atlantic
TALDORA< I SS on82884, B.1881 FOR MCiLWRAITH,McEACHARN FOR
USE OUT OF Rockhampton by their agents/subsidiy Walter reid & CO, see
Australian Coastal Pass Ships see also Scuttled & Abandoned Ships
for dumping
TALUNE, once again sheer carelessness has joined two vessels the same
name without a break suggesting the one vessel continued for centuries.
First SSS ON57626 B.1890 found the Perthshire etc., and sold
to breakers in 1925. The second did arrive as you state and was described
as S ss ON153895, 2742/1498 built for the sydney-Tasmanian
trade made her last voyage Hobart to Sydney via Devonport commenced Apl.
11,1959 and then sold in 1959 to Hong Kong and renamed AMOS
but went to breakers the next year. And of course you sunk the second steamer
in 1925, instead of the first û just how confused can anyone become????
You certainly manage to confuse any sensible reader
TAM OÆshanter ASHORE NEAR THE tAMAR was sold to the
Hentys and the register closed with broken up
TAMAHINE, S tss ON151506, tonnage varies= 1989/803; 1948 û 1968g;
1956 1964g. B.1925 for the Union companyÆs Cook strait passenger
service between Wellington and Picton sold 1962 to Hong Kong for further
trading, it was estimated when the service ceased Aug. 11, 1962 it had
made the crossing 15000 times and carried about 2 million passengers
TAMAR, HERE WE GO AGAIN, UTTER CONFUSION ON THE PART OF THE EDITOR
because there are some vessels of the same name!!!!!!!!!!.
Tamar w ps, built 1833 Pt Glasgow for proposed Tamar s.N.Co û
see also Austral Coastal Pass ships. As you have all the ownershps jumbled,
confused and not very clear and then decend into complete and utter
confusion with your additions by such a collection of unreliable
writers only making things much worse.
TAMAR ON 32216, WAS BUILT BY Wm.Patterson, not Petersen
And was originally reg as 119 tons, altered in 1858 to 109
TAMAR ISS 453 tons, in 1882 to Sydney owners see Ast Coastal
Pass ships, last confirmed reference 1925 when hulk offered for sale
Apparently along the way none of your fancied compilers of myth have noticed
there was a tug built in 1854 named TAMAR for the Launceston harbour
board which was obviously engaged in some of the things you wish to credit
to the wooden tug - what a mess some people do weave when they do not take
the trouble to consider or understand all available material - a barque
this name said to be lost in 1874 was NOT owned in Australia, if
the incident ever happened
TAMBARORA Iss laid down as a gunboat but brought on the stocks,
Stranded the morning of March 23, 1877 on a reef n w of th solataries,
NSW coast, the pumps were kept going until she reached the Clarence river
where temporariy repairs were made to enable her to comnplete the trip
to Brisbane
TAMBO Gippsland lakes, according to register =
TAMBO, I ss 40g, ON79531, 72 feet long, Built 1882 A.McAlpine,
Paynesville and registered by C.Swan, and in june 1885 to J.G.Dahlsen,
reg closed Dec.1891 made into a barge
TAMERLANE, iron hull, full detail see Scuttled & Abandoned Ships
TAMORIS,, you have another version of the name earlier. Why no cross
reference???????///////
TANGIER ss chartered by the Intercolonial S S co for its
Melbourne-WA pass and cargo service in 1896 - S ss 1880g reg Pt.Adelaide
1895 returns to London reg 1904 see æSteamships in Colonial
Western Australia for full detail,
TARANAKAI is incorrect. the New Zealand place and therefore
the ship is written TARANAKI
Taranaki, I ss 415/299 until July 1877 = 443/327 was founding unit
of Union ss and became folio 15 of 1877 Dunedin
original 2 of 1866 Wellington
TARARUA I ss, see Aust.Coastal Pass ships, 692/523. 1876
û 827/563, ON50088 in May 1869 acquired by McMeckan,Blackwood &
CO, reg. Melbourne: who sold to Union Line in 1878 original 3 mast
schooner, in 1876 reduced to 2 mast. Operated all round australia and particularly
noted for association with the building of the Australian overland telegraph
and berthing in the Roper River, N.T. and just why do you duplicate.???
Just to waste space I suppose û that seems to be the general idea
in this disaster.
TARBET CASTLE was actually named TARBERT CASTLE was built as a paddle
steamer. Arrived Pt.Phllip Nov. 15, 1853 reported as Tarbett Castle. Reg
Melbourne 1854 in 1861 briefly owned by the Turnbulls of Pt.Albert but
sold to Dunedin in 1862 and became hulk.
Taroona, BASS STRAIT FERRY STARTED LIFE WITH TWO FUNNELS BUT ENDED
THE CAREER AFTER ww2 WITH ONLY one BUT AS YOU WAFFLE ON I AM IGNORING THE
ITEM however you may care to see Australian Coastal Pass Ships
TARRA W ss b.1869 Melbourne for Turnbulls of Port Albert, Sold
Dec.1871 to others Sept.1882 to owners in Bairnsdale last owners from 1895
Dahlsen & Bull, reg closed 1918 ælong since broken upÆ
û with your partiality for Victorian shipping I thought you MIGHT
have known about this one!!!!!
TASMA, lost 1846, was actually named TASMAN, Q V
Tasman, built 1847 was sold to English buyers in 1854.
TASMAN KETCH, AFTER A LENGTHY ITEM INCLUDING REFERENCE TO ALLEGED SINKING
IN 1877 YOU REPEAT A ONE LINER SAYING IT WAS LOST in 1877 û JUST
WHAT DO YOU WISH TO CONVEY TO ANYONE?????/ EDITING? THERE IS JUST NO TRACE
OF IT AT ALL IN THIS HORRIBLE APOLOGY FOR A REFERENCE BOOK HOWEVER IT IS
AS ALWAYS WHEN YOU ARRIVE WITH A SHIP NAME THAT IS POPULAR - CONFUSION
RULES.
TASMANIA (the wooden Tasmania), arrived Port phillip Dec.13,1852, from
Batavia the first American owned steamer to visit Melbourne. - she
came in the hope of making money out of the gold rushes. And in april 1853
was renamed when purchased by the newly formed Victoria & Tasmania
s.n.Co but was never free from engine trouble.,the Vic & tas company
failed and the vessel was sold and re-reg in Hobart in Jan.1855 prior to
leaving for England for disposal - as usual one of your ægoodÆ
compilers sent her to Sydney for the coal trade but no contemporary reference
has been discovered to support his claim you could get some more
information from Aust.Coastal Pass ships etc.etc.etc.
TASMANIA Iss and we really go off the board. Lanarkshire England û
ha ha ha!!! Built as a collier - desperately incorrect, designed and intended
as a first class passenger vessel. But why go further your entry completely
mad û see Aust. coastal pass ships etc. and only when sold away from
Tasmania did it begin to work as a collier.
TASMANIA HMAS ANOTHER WARSHIP BUILT OF IRON IN 1918 û
JUST HOW STUPID CAN ANYONE GET???
TASMANIC, LONEY AGAIN UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND HIS NOTES IT WAS A steamship
TASSO, W bq. ON20396, B. 1857 first to aust at Newcastle in 1872.
sold Jan 1880 for use as coal hulk to Osbourne Wallsend Coal co. register
closed 1890 with æbroken upÆ
TATTOO another warship built from iron in 1918 û did UK
suddenly run out of steel? Or is it that you simply cannot abide having
warships built from steel -= I simply cannot understand how anyone claiming
to have an interest in nautical matters can make so many glaring, unbelievably
stupid errors!!!
TAUPO, Sss Built 1884, repeat 1884, and the second of the name in the
Union line hence the use of that II which has caused you some concern
TE ANAU S ss ON75225 1652/1029 b.1879 fror Union Line, It was
the second steel hulled ship built for the company and fitted with elecriclight
in 1895 and for many years was in the intercolonial passenger trade until
converted for cargo work in 1909, She was scuttled in Wanganui Harbour
in connection with harbour construction work in 1924
TEAL WKT 34T, on49283, B. 1864 John Cuthbert,Sydney, last
owners Manning River S.N.c, register closed Æabandoned about 1881
and to be broken up at TareeÆ
TELL I see we still fancy a TWO MAST barque??????// orig
380 tons reduced to 302 when hulked,
TEMPLAR w bq 284 t j.harry mstr from gls arrived jan 2
1854 left for callao apl 11
Tenterden, see aust.coastal pass ships etc.
Terara I PS b.1885 for Illawarra S N CO, July 1895 North coast SN etc.
TERKA, WHY TWO IDENTICAL ENTRIES???
Terkpelei YOU PERHAPS WOULD NOT BE SO SURPRISED HAD YOU
READ HER ROUTE MORE CAREFULLY AS I REPORTED IT WAS ON THE WAY
FROM New York to UK when lost û stupid carelessness or deliberate
effort to be difficult û I just do not know what happens, but you
never seem to be able to read things as well as others!!!!!!!!!!!!
TERRA NOVA, LOST IN 1842 AND REGISTRED SYDNEY 1852??MORE CARELESSNESS
OR WHAT?
Terranora, S ps, following sale to NZ converted to hulk in Auckland
in 1906.
TERROR, w bq, b.1840 Cork, first in aust. By boyd at Sydney1843
TETHYS S tss dredger built 1905 for NSW Govt. apparently
involved in an incident in 1907
THALES ISS WAS FOR SOME TIME UNDER CHARTER TO ASN AND WAS
WORKING Hong Kong-australia with chinese goldminers etc. 1196t b.1865
reg hong kong you obviously have no knowledge of Australian shipping of
the 19th century
THE Brothers, was registered simply as BROTHERS, and while it did make
some trips to Manly can hardly be called the first ferry to Manly, it was
used everywhere on Port Jackson as the owners saw fit.
THE HUNTRESS was never known as such, just poor research, someone wrote
about the HUNTRESS. It was NOT a success as a ferry and ended up
in New Zealand as you vaguely report under that name
The PENGUIN YET ANOTHER TRANSCRIBING ERROR, IT WAS THE STEAMER penguin,
NOT A STEAMER NAMED The Penguin!!!!!!!
THISTLE owned by Hentys at one time, - your story so far from reaility
it may be consigned to the fairytale department - I QUOTE FROM THE
CUSTOM HOUSE REGISTER - 57 &55/94ths tons, 52Æ6 x
16..3 x 8.11 and half inches. Built 1825 repeat 1825 Fort Gloster w 2m
schooner and when reg Launceston in 1832 was said to be formerly of Calcutta
where it had been enrolled Apl.17 1828. in August 1832, enrolled Launceston
by James Henty having arrived Launceston Jan. 1832 from the Swan River
so your pile of piffle just romantic fiction. Yet you copy mine without
comment apart from indicating I do not know what I am talking about û
so much for a helpful encylopedia û where confusion is the theme
of the whole work
THISTLE IPS LOST Port Albert, better get Love to write to the Melbourne
newspapers seeing he disagrees wth their contemporary reporting. The papers
reporting it had left for Pt.Albert Dec. 21 û just where do your
marvellous compilers get their information????? û it looks as though
many, if not all, write the æinformationÆ to suit their desires,
not the facts!!!!!!!!
THISTLE sank forster bar, mistaken but how or why I cannot explain.
Nlo vessel that size registered in Sydney in 1906/7
THOMAS ANN COLE (No & in the middle) reg Trans to London
in 1861
THOMAS AND ANNIE, 84 tons,my typo, should be 14
I e fourteen
THOMAS AND HENRY, working in 1850 was = w brig 234 tons,
built 1850 manning river, later ON40352, that was broken up in new
zealand in 1924
THOMAS LORD TWO ENTRIES WITH AN ODD ONE IN BETWEEN- VERY STRANGE
SETTING = DO YOU THINK TWO DIFFERENT VESSELS???
Or just more waste space???
THOMPSONS OF 1837 was registered as THOMSONS so it should be
thus listed with all the variations following- if there was any editorial
work on this book û which clearly there was NOT.
THORWALDSON (a different spelling per press to your
entry) - w SHIP 907/850 Capt.A.Birnie, arrived Pt.Phillip Nov. 11,1852
from Liverpool, with 334 pasengers
The same master, different initial took the vessel back to sea later
so if the charge succeeded he didnÆt get into much trouble
THREE BEES, why did you painfully tell readers abut Dawes Point
but omit the location of bennelong Point, either your readers know the
location of both or none!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THREE COUSINS, so vague you cannot bring yourself to include
any ref as to where this information came from????????????????
THREE FRIENDS< W SCH, 13T, on40955, B.1863 Richmond River,
NSW, first owners R.S.Warry, merchant of Brisbane and Port Denison who
sold in 1865 to Melbourne resident who did not transfer register
and vessel lost to customs and it was closed in 1918 æno trace
THURLAND CASTGLE, is not mentioned in lists of vessels missing after
leaving Newcastle. But was - Iron ship 1301g/1244 226.1 x 34.8 x
21.5, B.1876 Harland & Wolff Belfast, owners: Lancaster Shipowners
Co, reg. Lancaster Capt.W. Anderson, Maiden voyage to Auckland left
Gravesend, Nov.4,1876, with a very young master, aged 24 years, appointed,
according to gossip,because his father had an interest in the ship, but
it made a good voyage arriving AUCKLAND feb.8, 1877. According to Brett,
in ÆWhite winGsÆ went to Newcastle for coal and then
vanished (LUR 1877 æWhite WingsÆ)
TICONDEROGA a FOUR MAST SHIP in 1852? Extremely unlikely.
While other refs give dfferent numbers of loss to illness-
arrived at heads Nov. 5 from Liverpool
TIGER ON31600 first in Australia at Melbourne in 1853
TIGRESS LOST 1872?? Register closed in 1872 with no reason quote,nor
any contemporary report of loss, and probably demolished. First to Australia
in 1829 when advertised for sale in January Owner in May 1829 Archibald.Mosman
of sydney reg. Glasgow, trans to sydney register 1834. described originally
193 tons, in 1853 readmeasured = 109tons, B.1827 Dumbarton, and over
a long life variously rigged û 2m sch, 2m brigantine etc.,etc. No
transactions after Feb.1854.
TILBA, while owned by the Illawarra Company was employed full
time on the south coast trades, you possibly meant to indicate when built
it was going to be on the northern rivers trade, but then, as so often
happens in this mismanaged disaster, you forgot to tell anyone
TIMARU, I SS B.1883 FOR Timaru steam collier Co,reg.Lyttleton,arriving
march 1884, for reasons not announced sold March 1889 to North Illawarra
Coal mining, and reg trans to Sydney employed as a collier, c.1907 acquired
for cargo/pass service between Brisbane and Clarence River, NSW.. in april
1919 to James Patrick, then briefly to North Coast Comany who sold
in 1923 to Adelaide Steam Tug company who made it a lighter for the conveyance
of limestone from Yorke Peninsula to Port Adelaide for the cement company,
and for a while there ws the hope it may be fitted with a motor to become
self propelled, but this was abandoned and the vessel remained in service
until 1959 when replaced by a specially obtained vessel for the trade..
and the hull demolished.
TIME of 1890 etc.etc.,and all that speculation û see my entry
for Howard Smith vessel this name which undoubtedly is the craft you cannot
identify.but you list immediately after which was initially registered
at Melbourne folio 9 of 1890
TINANA S ss 1901 obtained for seasonal sugar trade out of Maryborugh
and usually always on Qld coast, in 1925 to Collin & sons for
the same service, then to John burke in 1933 for the sydney-North Qld route
formerly serviced by ss Cannonbar in 1946 sold to China but drops out of
Lloyds in 1950 which usually means it was demolished
TINONEE 297g, 1884 = 313/200, when refitted for regular
Sydney-north coast service by B B Nicoll but was unsuitable and sold to
Morts dock in 1887 who had installed a new engine and boiler in 1879. last
transaction ws in 1892 when sold for use with the pearling fleet. No further
information and register closed 1953, ASN used it on bar harbour
work and for some time operated between Brisbane and Maryborough
TIRRANA Dantzig may have ended up as part of germany but it was NOT
german when this vessel was built. Agree I have made an error in dates
ûthe same you have constantly performed through this book. The raider
attacked JUNE not as I printed January and your pastronising tone
continues û along with many more of your childish, petulant observations
TITAN Ip s tug, 97g, ON55122 b.1866 Barclay,Curle & Co, Glasgow
for the Spence brothers Melbourne and Greymouth, reg.Melbounre who
sold in Jan. 1869 to Melbourne lighterage operators Norton & Graham
who in July 1871 sold to Jas Deane, he sold to Lyttelton owners in July
1873 reg closed with beached and abandoned at the head of Bluff Harbou
about 1901
TITANIA, reported for sale in smh did not find a purchaser in
Australia or new zealand.
TITUS I SS OF 1878, WHEN ACQUIRD BY Burns,Philp in 1896 was the first
vessel in the fleet û just what drugs was someone on when they printed
that remarkable story??? The vessel was acquired by Melbourne owners in
1884 and became a hulk for BP at Vila in 1908 and was scuttled in
1919. The accident in 1907 involved the vessel KADINA, NOT AS PRINTED.
AND WHILE YOU HAVE HER SCUTTLED IN 1918, YOU LATER DECIDE THAT 1911 LOOKS
BETTER???????
Tjinegara MORE stupid comment - I quote official report
that admittedly is vague, but then give correct site which you find quite
unreasonable û just what do you think you are trying to do?ö?these
useless comments do not help in this continuous disaster I can only suppose
you must make them to let readers û if by this, any û
that yuu can work out a map reading
TOCOPILA full details see Scuttled & Abandoned Ships
TOFUA s SS b.1908 FOR THE Union LineÆs Pacific Island services.
Found survivors of the ERROL lost on Middleton reef in 1909. Withdrawn
from service in 1932, and sold to Japanese breakers in 1934
TOM FISHER W f&a sch 87t, B.1884 Balmain, in 1906 was owned
by G.M.Gummer, timber merchant,Thursday Is, reg Brisbane and sold
to N Z in 1910 and then to French atTahiti in 1912, so whatever happened
in 1906 was not fatal
TOMMY, b.1859 reg closed 1928 æbroken up some years agoÆ
last transaction 1895 when acquired by R.R.Holten, ballast man Port Melbourne.
spent all working life jumping between owners in north and south tasmsnia
South Australia and victoria
TOPAZ, AMERICAN sealer and trader, Capt. Folger, arrived from
Boston in Hobart oct. 1 1807 rr 1807 and went whaling in Adventure Bay
and Left Tasmania Nov 3
see Nicholsons arrivals departures
HMS Torch 1844 Mare Blackwall, was sold out of the RN in
sydney in 1856 reg sydney as a commercial craft which was sold to Java
in 1857 so your 1917 incident canot be joined - Which is easy to
believe ûin 1917 one would think a vessel built in 1844 might just
be beyond use
TOROA Iron ss built 1899 for Richardson & CO, Napier,
NZ reg Napier folio 3 of 1899 trans to Melbourne 9 of 1908 then Launceston
1 of 1908 thence Melbourne 7 of 1911, so as usual your source of information
has many problems with accuracy although some records do show the vessel
was built from steel which is not confirmed by underwriters and customs
house registers.
TORRENS HMAS see Scuttled and Abandoned ships for final disposal
correction
TOTTIE SUPOSSEDLY LOST 1905, NO TRACE OR EVIDENCE VESSEL THAT NAME
IN EXISTENCE
Trader, WHICH I TOLD YOU WAS BUILT AT Camden,Maine, has appeared with
you wondering here maine is û wonderful grasp of Geography,as evidenced
millions of times in this disaster. Unfortunately for your sensational
reporting the STAR OF GREECE was not lost in 1866 û see your
own records û but there were one or two other wrecks nearby as ou
have also reportedà.
TRAFALGAR LOST 1860, UNLIKELY SEE MY COMMENT ABOUT 1864
AND OF COURSE THE ONE Lubbock was talking about was the large iron vessel
you mention above û how to get customers confused is again demonstrated
and has come down to a fine art in this dispairing
catalogue of confusionÆ
TRANCOOLAH, I wonder what has been mutilated to deliver this name????
could it possibly be TRINCULO????C
TRANSFER built B1825 was constructed at the town of Louis
a Loup, not by = more lovely geographical confusion
TRANSPORT W brig, 307 tons, b, 1865 by G.B.Reid, Port George,
Annapolis, Nova Scotia to newcastle NSW folio 12 1874 ex Dublin register.
Newcastle register closed Feb.1888 with broken up on Stockton Beach, -
so never lost or wrecked simply demolished û more Loney fantasay
I suppose Heaven alone knows where Leek got his information û
it is not from an Australian registration
TREVANION, caught by Graf spee û my trip information as
contained in official war loss list - donÆt know where
Torrance got his from
TRIAD, sch, 94 tons, ex Hobart, arrived Pt.Phillip May
12, 1851 and left for Circular Head May 21, but got ashore
between the lighthouse and a marker bouy May 22 and was warped off. So
incident nearer queensclife. Triad was built in 1850 on Huon river
and reg.Hobart, and was sold to Government June 1853 (Of Tasmania)
TRIAL LOST May 1861, but you also suggest others found
it was wrecked in 1824, which would be rather difficult seeing it was only
built in 1837, but then you do such wonferful things
triomphe WAS not RR not REGISTERED IN Australia and was probably owned
in Mauritius LoneyÆs vessel was reported stranded in 1864 etc
etc
TRITON B.1838 Bristol was given two ON because one custom House lost
it. Melbourne last had it as folio 147/1853, issued ON32456
and wrote it off in 1876 No trace however, in the meantime it had
been re registered at Newcastle in 1854, 7 of 1854 which
was closed æstrandedÆ in 1863, when salvaged repaired an re
reg in sydney they were given 32705.. From the rest of your strange collection
I can report there was NO rr No vessel this name registered as built Manning
river in 1844 or one named Ben Boyd so your compilers were very misled
by the problems that beset this vessel. Which first came to Austalasia
a Auckland in 1847 then moved to Hobart, Melbourne, Newcastle and
sydney I can sort out the mess as I have collected ALL registrations around
the place and can match them up. The vessel this name stranded Port Fairy,
is this vessel also reported stranded Portland which did not happen - the
Pt.fairy accident happened March 3, refloated April 26
TRIUMPH, see THE TRIUMPH for vessel lost near Glenelg river
TROUBRIDGE was built fr the Pt.Adelaide û Pt.Lincoln service,
and later moved to the Kangaroo Island run
TRUCANINI why all this waffle about the name, the shipbuilder
or owner spelt the name wrongly û they should consult you for so
many fine exampes you offer û unfortunate but it does happen, your
comments unnecessary or if you feel there should be some comment, a simple
statement confirming the spelling of the name would suffice., There were
a number of vessels with the correct spelling which your compilers/contributors
etc, seem to have lost sight of
TRUE BLUE hulk, for correct description and disposal see Scuttled &
Abandoned ship.
TRUGANINA - YOU ARE SO RIGHT - YOU ARE UTTERLY CONFUSED.
That the early shipbuilders/owners chose to spell a word differently should
not cause you to get lost in a mumble of meaningless explanations that
do nothing to help anyone. Yap yap yap like a little dog when something
crops up that you are unable or unwilling to understand.
TRUGANINA, which you award to 1846 was actually - named
TRUGANINI AND WAS = w 2M KT 40t on57574 BUILT B1876 RR 1876
Franklin, and was a acquired by J.B.Lock of Melb in 1888 who died and his
execs sell to E.J.Janssen of Phillip Is and he immediately sold to
south australia and you will find the loss in my book
TRUGANINI STEAMER entry is the vessel you later list in some
detail, even if that entry is up that same well known creek as many of
your other entries. û of course you must swing into your unnecessary
dissatation about the name û how to waste time and space, let alone
money, is wonderfully exhibited in this load of tripe. For some better
information you could look at Australian coastal Pass Ships etc.
in aprll 1879 sold to B B Nicoll for the sydney-Northern rivers trade,then
considered for Brisbane û north qld trade and in April 1882 to James
Burns, and was announced for work out of Brisbane, and when Burns succeeded
in forming Queensland Stm Shipping Co, the vessel was transfered to that
fleet and when that copany became AUSN the vessel remained working around
Qld, conducting mail services etc. until AUSN obtained a contract
to conduct a Sydney-Noumea mail service and sent truganini to the islands
to conduct an inter-island feeder service. Etc.etc.etc.
Your next entry is completely confused with your earlier attempt
for 1846, which see to explain how this later one came into being
- It seems once you come to a name used by more than one vessel utter and
complete confusion attacks and you enter a dark room and chase every shadow
about!!!
TRUSTY built 1874 Phillip Is, why two lengthy items about the
same small vessel.- Which was built in fact in 1877 according to its registration
-- more unlikely hoo haa. The Williams attempt was for another vessel built
in 1864 at Dunedin and always working thereabouts As per my book
TURAKINA, I ship 1247g/1189n, ON60352, B.1868 Chas.Connell &
CO, glasgow as CITY OF PERTh, ASHORE TIMARU May 14, 1882 refoated
name change Sept. 1882, reg. Lyttelton. Trans to London 1888 Sold
to Norway Feb. 1899
TUTANEKAI S tss, 811/4112, B.1896 Pt.Glasgow, not registered
owned by NZ Govt.
TWEED 1858 no trace registers or contemporary pres.
TWEED W ss b.1884 did NOT work on the northern NSW rivers,
but was a Sydney harbour workboat/tug until sold to rockhamton Harbour
board in 1896
Twins, B. 1849 nz WAS REG Melbourne from 1854 till 1859
Twins advertised in SMH 1851, was from San Francisco. Named Beto 143
tons
TWO BROTHERS, LOST 1899 I can only report the closing entry in
the register so if it does not suit you I am sorry
UUUUUUUUU
UKI w SS 28 TONS, B.1892 Mike Richards got confused, or
someone did, this small steamer was built for and always worked upon the
river from Murwillumbah,, nSW and was hulked in 1919. the other larger
one was built for NSCN
UKI BUILT FOR ncsn, FOR DETAILS DISPOSAL LATER USE ETc, SEE Scuttled
and abandoned ships, detail from Brisbane Custom House regiser etc
ULIMAROA, built Gourlay Bros, DUNDEE not Dumbarton. See
Aust.Coastal Pass Shis Or Lloyds Register etc.etc.
ULLOCK full detail etc, see Scutled Abandoned Ships
ULYSSES etc., China Mutal later Alfred Holt û your complete lack
of knowledge about shipowners continues to amaze. They were and are one
and the same company with the use of subsidary names for taxation, conference
or trading purposes.
UNDAUNTED w AuX SS 1470/1095 ARRIVED FROM PLYMOUTH AUG 20,1857
UNDINE, hms, have already reported on this pile of misinformation under
RUBY
UNDINE BAY, SAME VESSEL, san GIVING DATE REGISTER CLOSED BUT MISSED
THE FATE ALSO QUOTED THE SAME DOCUMENT
Union, BRIG WRECKED 1873 IN FULL DETAIL ABOVE SIX ENTRIES
BELOW the same reference but no connecion with correct iem ablove???
More carelessness I suppose or complete lack of editiorial prowess
UNITED w brig 207 t Pt.Phillip July 26, 1853 mstr.
J.Mariott
UNKNOWN, more unnecessary comment û how do you know why the name
was chosen? More childish comment!!
URAIDLA tug, built for Adelaide CompanyÆs West Australian
operations, and later transferred to their Port Adelaide subsidiary as
harbourtug. û see Steam Tugs in South australia, etc.etc.
URILLA S ss 1965/1069,ON117430 B.1907 MiddlesbroÆ
sold chinese in 1931 and as LEE PING sunk as a blockship in Whamgpu River,
march 1937.
BRITHA< ONLY VESSEL THIS NAME REGISTERED IN BRISBANE BUILT IN 1941
REPEAT 1941
VVVVVVV
Vacuna ???
VALIANT, tug ex Melbourne H.T. see scuttled & Abandoned Ships
VAN GALLAN, press said VAN GALEN ship 750t
arrived April 27, 1853 from London and is shown as having rescued
a long boat from sacramento
VELEIRO. Actually VALERO, q.v your entry completely wrong
VELOCITY ON35730 repeat 35730, was built at SHALDON repeat SHALDON,
NOT AS SHOWN., REG SAYS 139 TONS, TO Aust.reg. nov. 1868 st
Sydney thence to Hobart.
VELOCITY on31619 BUILT 1840Nova Scotia. Reg sydney 1844 Ben boyd,.trans
to geelong register 1852 May 1858 dove & Oswald Melbourne for demolition
, reg closed 1860 brken up
VENDETTA<, hmaS - ONCE YOU GET AN IDEA IN YOUR HEAD IT CANNOT BE
MOVED û YOU HAVE ANOTHER iron Hull warship built in the 20th century
just what has the navy done to you to have you persist in this stupid story???
VENUS, your two entries with Bass etc., confused beyond clarification so
ignored.
VENUS of 1890 would seem more likely to have been the vessel
that descrition and tonnage Cumpston lists as arriving 1810 û I do
not know how your various reference books can get everything so ballsed
up, but they do, or else you mutilate them by extremely bad copying. =
VENUS capt.Eber Bunker, 350 reg. Calcutta arrived Feb. 27,1810
from calcutta, but no mention of shoes.
VENUS, built Melbourne, has nothing to do with the advert in SMH,which,
had you understood (or if you read it) you should have realised it referred
to the vessel you list above, built in Pt.Adelaide and lost at Pt.Stephens
û ah well I know nothing makes sense in this epic of misunderstood,
misread or otherwise utterly ignorant and confused ficton but you seem
to need to include pointless or childish comment on the most unlikely bits.
VENUS 13 w f&a sch, b. 1874, register closed 1920 = æno
trace since 1888 when reported beached at Brisbane water and probably broken
upÆ
VENUS . lugger built 1886 which some of your compilers want to have
built in 1880 was according to customs and underwriters register built
in 1886 and my loss report from the west Australian contemporary press.-but
that is not good enough for you --- But as usual when you get a lot of
vessels with the same name confusion takes charge and nothing comes out
sensibly
VENUS steamer sunk in 1920 fremantle obviously vessel above lost
in 1923
VERALAM, was actually registered as VERULAM which you do
not like and have said I spelt wrongly ???? why must
you accept unlikely variations that suit your usually inaccurate compilers???
And then quote possible alternatives but do not give full details of original
error??????????
VERITAS, W bq û aust shpg news May 10,1879,
sold at auction to H.R.Reid & Co having been damaged by stranding and
abandoned to Underwriters. Melb. re 1 of 1880, apl 1896 to sydney
and Jan. 1899 to Dunedin register reg closed 1926 and towed to sea and
sunk in 1933 having been hulked c.1900 by Westport coal Company
VERNON, B. 1839 Blackwall London, ws dismasted in the South Pacific
according to SMH April 1865 and was later sold by the vice Admiralty court
Launceston to Robert Towns and reg Sydney folio 91 of
1864 who sold to NSW Govt Jan 1867 etc.etc.etc.
VERONE,, actually multlation of VAROON. Which you have
managed to overlook in my publication
VERULAM hulk to melb howard smith 1896. sank off coal berth
Oct. 1923, raised Jan. 1924 and sold to Victorian Lighterage. Sunk
june 1927, raised and beached on bank Maribyrnong Nov. 1927, sold
1930 to A.G.Brace who towed it free and scuttled Dec.17, 1930
reg closed 1931
VESTA IPS, ORIGINAL 60 TONS, 1847 DECK RAISED AND
CABIN REFITTED = 93/68TONS û mAY 1846 g.w.Cole & Dalgetty,
owners: cole buys out dalgetty march 1849, and sells aug 1864
to Evans, of sydney but register only transferred in 1872. SMH Oct. 1870
= has been refitted and and now licensed to carry 330 passengers inside
the Heads operates as steam tug but is often on the Watsons Bay trip on
weekends.
VICTORIA 184 tons, Deptford is NOT repeat NOT on the Hunter river
NSW
In nov.1840 sold to govt of NZ and only sold out of that service in
1854 and purchased by John King of Hobart in 1856 and sold
to O.H.Hedberg August 1856
VICTORIA W ps,b.1840 see Aust Coastal Pass Ships, ON30554, reg
= 134.0 x 18.7 x 12.0 SMH 1847 reported she was working from Pointe
de Galle to the Malabar coast, at the time owned inBombay
VICTORIA oÆMayÆs fairy tale û presumably this had
to happen in Tasmania but in 1850 there was NO Victoria of 55 tons registered
anywhere in Australia. The only cutter victoria being 35 tons and
that went to san Francisco in 1851 and did not return
VICTORIA I ps,ON32516 B.1851 Wingate, Glasgow it was later claimed
it was ordered by the original Geelong s.N.Co which had failed to form
by the time it arrived in Pt.Phllip Jan. 26, 1852. leng.1860 = 132g 154.2
x 16.3 etc. when tried for the Geelong trade proved
unprofitable and Dec. 1853 sold to the sydney & Melbuorne Steam Packet
Company and taken to sydney where it was announced it would trade to the
Hunter river as a feeder to the ownerÆs main line to Melbourne, but
it was also used as a ferry on Port Jackson aug. 1854 was making three
trips daily to Watsons Bay. when the S&MSP went into liquidation was
obtained by Edye Manning who employed it on various short sea coasal trades
out of Sydney for more see Aust.Coastal Pass Ships. Having been sold
to Jap govt. was wrecked off coast of Japan in 1864.
VICTORIA, I SS on25132 BUILT 1853, REpEAT 1853, VIDE FOLIO 175
OF 1853 London. Sold in 1860 and later renamed SHANNON ARRIVED VIA
PT ADEL AT MELB AUG 22, 1853, THENCE TO SYDNEY AND RETURNED ON HER
WAY BACK TO uk which you later want to have wandering around Tasmania
in 1900!! Wonderful move and I would like to know how you could accomplish
it.
HERE WE GO AGAIN - TWO OR MORE WITH THE SAME NAME AND UTTER CONFUSION
APPEARS - FROM LACK OF CARE AND THE PREFERenTIAL ACCEPTANCE OF RUBBISHERY
COMPILERS AGAINST FACTUAL MATERIAL ReADILY AVAILABLe, EVEN TO YOU û
HAD YOU CARED TO LOOK!!
Victoria 157 Tons ho ho ho, = I ss 15gross 10 nett tons, ON41463,
built 1857 Melbourne owner R.Grant, reg. Melbourne 53 of 1857 sold after
a collison reported in the Argus Jan. 12, 1858 between the Melb-WÆtown
ferry VICTORIA AND steam tug Black eagle the ferry considerably damaged.
VICTORIA b.1860 Lubeck, reg close 1911
VICTORIA B.1861 - THE ONLY VESSEL APPROX IS = w
SCH 56T. on36714 b.1861 Omaha NZ, that was trans to Melbourne regi
1866 when IT was sold by vice admiralty court and remained reg Mebourne
folio 38 of 1866 until sold to a foreigner at Timor in 1877.
VICTORIA I SS ON68355 b.1871 J.W.Richardson & Co, Low Walker
for the ITalian govt, named SIRACUSA but was refused because it was too
slow., sold to ASN agents in London sold Dec.1899 to O.E.Paauss and
partners who later renamed their syndicate steamship victoria Ltd,. Dec
1903 to r.V.Saddington who sold to chinese shipbreakers.
VICTORIA I SS ON11250, built 1884 Armstrong & Mitchell, Newcastle
on tyne, for Victorian govt. 138.7 x 26.1 x 13.1 iron hull twin screw steamship
369g, 1918 = 357t g, on her delivey voyage involved in the Egyptian War.
Sold to West Aust Govt in 1896 and employed in towing duties around Fremantle
until sold to Messrs.Fenwick, tug owners Sydney and Newcastle in 1902.
Dec.18,1903 towed german ss Essen off a reef in New Caldeonia,, while owned
by Fenwick usually stationed in Newcastle and despite your preference of
having warship built of iron, you used steel here while all other sources
say IRON! Broken up in 1920
VICTORIA, TWO ATTEMPTS TO TELL THE SAME STORY û HOW VERY USUAL
IN THIS EPIC ? THIS IS on88939 WHICH IN THE FIRST RUN YOU OMITTED
TO MENTION HOW OR WHEN IT SUNK.
Victoria, a large aux wooden steamer built 1850 hopefully in collision
in Tasmanian waters in 1900 û that is more than wishful thinking
-- it is plain stupidity.How about THE HOBART OWNED STEAMER BUILT IN1888
Victoria S S 323/223 B.1901 on101736 REG IN NAME OF SENIOR
PILOTS
Victoria built for PACIIFIC STM NAV COMPANY, who you ceaselessely and
endlessly, wrongly call Peninsula - there is no evidence of any concentration
in this masterful exhibition of ignorance. This one did operate for the
Orient-pacific service to Australia but your reporting has successfully
cocked-up completely And then go on to exhibit your complete ignorance
of the material with the Melbourne owned Victoria built by Huddart Parker
said to be the same ship ûwhat joy for anyone who might be insane
enough to try and accept any of the tripe. IT may have helped had
you or anyone assisting had any knowledge, however slight, about, Australian
shipping services and or their owners û there is absolutely nothing
like that to be found in this completely distressing atrocious disaster.
Your victoria tug of Newcastle, see above, it was the former Vic gunboat,
turned tugboat
Victoria lost SA 1934 was just an ordinary cargo vessel, and NOT rr
NOT a bulker
Victoria packet, WAS NAMED VICTORIAN PACKET, WHICH YOU LOSE LATER
ON THERE NEVER WAS A VICTORIA PACKET
Victorian I ss built fo Adelaide company û see aust coastal pass
ships, but I do not know where you got the ref I said scuttled off Townsville
VILLE DE BORDEAUX. AGAIN UP THE CREEK. The Torrens fiasco
took place in 1841 repeat 1841 and while used as lightship for a
brief period the whole item is cock and bull û as usual with your
helpers but actual detail so well known no need to repeat here
Violet LOST 1878, YOU MAY HAVE IT WRECKED NEAR Barrenjoey or
the Brisbane Water Bar, but there is a lot of water in between. But the
incident was only a stranding, see my report of loss which also happens
to be your next entry û such wonderful editing!!!
VISION,with 1854 probems, two entries for no good reason apart from
caelessness or waste of space
VIVID W 3m bq, 257/238 ON68493, B.1870 Drammen,Norway, reg Melbourne
1874 by Piggot bros. Oct. 1894 to Huddart Parker and made a hulk, in 1897
reported working in Pt Adelaide
VIXEN W SCH 105 LEFT FOR NEW PLYMOUYH Nov.21, capt
E Lumsden. W 2m herm brig, 105t, 71.7 x 17, B.1840 Bally
(Balli?) arrived from Whampoa May 31, 1853 and sold in Melbourne
reg. 82 of 1854, which was closed Feb.1855 with ætransferred
to New PlymouthÆ which was never done û there was no register
available there anyway, but presumably foundered tween Melb and NZ
Vixen reported grounded 1857 Cape dombey which is not northern
territory but at or near ROBE SOUTH AUSTRALIA and your ref, to Phaeton
should have informed you of this
VOLADORA on117781 W 2m sch, 19/15t B. 1902 A.E.Brown,Fremantle, as
a pearler 45.0 aug.1919 The benedictine Community of
New Norcia, register closed 1966Æ ævessel sunk off Jones Island
1926Æ
VOLUSIA,, IT IS SO KIND TO STATE I MIGHT BE RIGHT û I QUOTED
CONTEMPORARY PRESS FOR MOVEMNTS ETC., I HAVE NO IDEA WHICH
CRYSTAL BALL LONEY USED
Voyager, HMAS, I do not believe my eyes û you actually will allow
ONE 20th century built warship to use steel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HaHA HA The strain was too much for you û I notice it was necessary
to use all that information again for a second entry a bit lower û
ah well we hadnÆt wasted space for a page or two, so I suppose that
must be the reason
VYNER BROOKE, loss site û as per official war lists.
WWWW
W.GORDON, reg Ardrossan 55513??? Presumably you wish to inform
readers that the vessel was registered at Ardrosson; that her official
number as such and such? As it reads it makes no sense
WAAKSAMHEYDT û Cumpston WAAKSAMHEYD Dutch snow (brig)
arrived sydney from Batavia Dec.17,1790,master Detmer Smith (and comments
that this translated as æGood Look OutÆ) according to Historical
Records of aust. The vessel left March 28 for England
and as passengers had officers and crew of the late æsiriusÆ
WAGOOLA never registered in Australia and no trace in any reputable
publication. There was a vessel this name owned in London and
built in England û have your compilers again grabbed the wrong information??
That would not surprise anyone,
WAHINE, b.1913 for the Wellington-Lyttelton ferry û there has
been much written about her and the loss, in New Zealand publications,
and those dealing with the history of Union Line but it is hardly a wreck
of great interest to Australia
WAHINE built 1966 was a twin screw STEAM SHIP, with turbo-electric
engines and Dickson Gregory who died long before the new ship
was built can hardly have commented upon its loss û just more carleless
mismanagement of material that is either not been read correctly or grossly
misunderstood It was NOT a.
motor vessel and official number was 317814 û not as printed
WAIHORA S ss 2003/1126n, ON84482 Built 1882 rr 1882 Denny,Dumbarton,
for UnioN SS CO of NZ Ltd, in Feb.1886, according to the Melbourne Argus,
having left Melbourne for N Z with a large number of passengers, struck
the rock, etc. etc.as you have it. Sold to Penang in 1903 and broken up
at Shanghai in 1911
WAIKATO said to be lost on GBR in 1934, was probably the ketch of that
name built 1904 Thursday Island, with the register never closed and reg
Tvlle in 1904
WAIMANA B.1899 your report touches some points, high and
low but leaves much to be recorded. Such as ultimate fate etc., etc.,
WAIPI. No trace and probably WAIPA same owner as WAIKATO,
B.1907 Thursday Is;and and apparently neither incident was fatal as both
continued to appear in registers
WAIREKA, SEE MY ENTRY FOR OFFICIAL NR ETC
Wairuna, S ss ON118495, 3947/2503 B.1904 Sir W.G>Armsrong
Whitworth & Co Newcastle/Tyne as LADY STRATHCONA,but sold and renamed
MATOPPO AND ACQ BY Union Line July 1905 and renamed WAIRUNA.
REG CLOSED æcaptured by German Raider Wolff and and subsequently
sunk by explosive charges from the raiderÆs crew. June 17,1917
WAITANGI, b.1904 ON is119041 not as printed
WAITEMATA, B.1852, put ashore St.Francis Island for repairs in 1860
rr 1860 not 59
WAI WER the pealring vessel allegedy lost in 1899 was either unregistered
or only damaged there was never two this name on
the register
Waiwera STSMV 12435G torpedoed June 29, 1942, post
45.49N x 34.29W whch you preferred not to pick up from my listing
WAKARIE û wrong, you already have it listed under proper name
WAIKARE
WAKATIPU, I SS on73830. b.1876 Denny for a syndicate headed by
J.Darling and including her master Capt. Angus Cameron expresely for the
sydney-NZ trade, 1797/1158, refitted dec.1891 = 1945/1258/ in 1878
acquired by Union SS Co. the 1891 refit resulted in an additional
poop deck and the conversion of second class pass accommodation into cargo
space.etc
WAKEFIELD, the vessel of this name which MAY have
been chartered to look for Waratah was NOT repeat NOT the vessel owned
by the British New guinea Company. That vessel ws built for the Yorke Penisula
trade of south Australia but was sold soon after to North West Tasmania,
before being sold to the British New Guinea DEvelopment company in 1911
and was thus = I ss 117/53n, ON76764 B. 1877 Fullerton & Co Paisley,
reg Brisbane folio 6 of 1911 and reg closed in 1920 when owners advise
converted to a hulk Just another exhibition of jumping to the wrong
conclusion without a check even in Lloyds.
WALLABI, YOU ARE CORRECT IT WaS Grey river New Zealand.
WALLABY, wrecked and abandoned to underwriters and then renamed
CHARLOTTE, has, as quite frequently in this work,become very confused as
you say it was charlotte that was stranded in one place,?????????????
WALLABY, w SS SYDNEY FERRy, ON75011 163t, Built 1878 W Dunn BerryÆs
Bay for North shore Ferry co., converted to cargo vessel in 1920 and broken
up in 1926, your contributor, as so often, well away from facts, but then
he was never very good with reliable information You could check with Sydney
customs folio 12 of 1879 or Prescot, Sydney Ferry Fleets for more reliable
information
WALRUS 88 tons, b.1860, sold to Launcston May 1863, and stranded river
Don in August 1870 and then sold to Sydney
WALTER & MARY W sch, b. Albany Wa 1871 reg
folio 13 of 1875 Fre. Closed 1908 æno transactions for some timeÆ
WANATA arrived pt phillip jan 22,1854 rr 54 from SOUTHAMPTON
with 341 govt miGrants. Crew In mutiny soMe desert in pilot boats.
WANDA, w SS 14/9 ON95987 B.1890 Carl Wrecklow,Metung, owned by
shipbuilder, later F.Wissing, then A A Millar & W.J.mcIntosh
DOROTHY w 22 29. b.1902 Lake tyers, owners J H Ellerker
Ltd & .W.Egry dErelict Lake Colac 1916 TWO DIFFERENT VESSELS
û MORE CONFUSION??/
WANDERER BoydÆs yacht, the press on arrrival at sydney July 18,
1842, said she measured 84 tons, so I do not know where your 240 may have
come from
WANDERER BUILT 1849. SO I SUPPOSE YOUR REPORT OF CAPSIZE AND LOSS IN
1840 JUST ANOTHER TYPO? It is so difficult when faced with
such a terrible typist to know which dates are wrong AND which are simply
mutilated. But there was no such accident recorded for vessel this name
which first arrived Melbourne april 1851, and was mentioned in Geelong
March 1852 and Bright Planet was first in Melbourne in 1853 û another
fairy tale from somewhere?????////
WANDILLA S tss ON122741 7852/4532n. B.1912 Beardmore, Dalmuir,
see aust.Coastal Pass Ships. Arrived 1913 and placed in the Fremantle
trade, requisionded as transport May 1915, and made hospital ship in July
1916. Returned to owners in 1919 but they felt there was no future in the
interstate passenger trade and placed her on the market. Sold in 1921 to
Furness withy and renamed; in 1935 to Italians and during WW 2 named
ARNO, AND AS HOSPITAL SHIP WAS TORPEDOED NEAR Tobruk Sept. 10, 1942
WANDRA most unusual type ûnever met with before æ
a wooden twin ketch rigged screw steamer? I wonder what that may be û
or is it just another example of just how bad the typist was when copying???
WANDRHAM MIGRANT SHIP FROM Germany? û it not exist then û
so whatever the complaints may have been it must have been about some principality
or whatever û just another sloppy item as
a makeweight I suppose.
WANGANELLA TSMV, SEE Aust.coastal Pass Ships. Your report,,
as usual, unreliable and down right absurd in parts., the vessel was only
completed in 1932, completion being delayed because the people who placed
the order were unwilling to conclude the bargain. It was to be named ACHIMOTA,
but was resold to HP before delivery
WANGARABELLE, see under correct name later ûwongrabelle
WANNON two entries same ship ???????/
WANSTEAD, for London, capt. Langdon,,left Hobart late 1828 no further
detail of alledged meeting etc.
Wantana, APEARS TO BE MUTILATION OF WANATA, but it hever arrived
with anything like 700 passengers BUT THE PRESS DID GET THE NAME WRONG
IN JANUARY1854
War spirit W ship 1234 tons arrived Pt.Phillip Nov. 1858 capt T,Baker
and departed for Calcutta mid Feb. 1859 so you are correct assuming
it was not a loss.
WARANEEN s TSS 107/73 on102211 Put together in Perth,West Australia
1897 from sections imported from UK, by Swan River Shipping company as
self propelled lighter/tug mainly for use with loading sailing vessels
with timber at Rockingham. Sold aug.1900 to Newcastle for similar work
among the sailing ships loading coal, but more often as a drogher on the
Hunter and tributaries. In 1929 transferred to the south coast blue metal
trade and finally placed in the coal trade until hulked in 1937
WARATAH ips INTO THE MIRACLE LISTS û BUILT 1851 DID SOMETHING
IN 1844? HO HO, SUCH EDITORIAL WORK!!! SEE Aust.Coastal Pass ships . ordered
by Hunter River company but by the time the vessel arrived that company
had changed its name to ASN and in view of demand for pass to Melbourne
diverted from original route i e hunter river, to the sydney Melbourne
run and later due to gold rushes to the sydney-Maryborough route, but ultimately
ended on the route intended, that is the Hunter river trade. Reg closed
1867 æsold foreign at shanghai, but the vessel had left some time
earlier for sale fate unknown but has been reported as working on the Ningpo
route and towing on the Yangtse
WARATAH, W ss a steam packet? Quaint term, long out of
use by the 1890s. steam launch a better description 15g/8n
tons, the WA glovt did not trans registery and the LÆton one closed
1931 æ no traceÆ
WARATAH lost 1894 in a full entry earlier turns up again with
brief one liner, no cross reference, or any real need to include
WARD CHAPMAN, no report of ever entering port phillip
WAREATEA I SS 511/319 on84486. SEE Aust.Coastal Pass ships, built
1883 Paisley for Westport Coal co.Ltd, of New Zealand but soon after
arrival sold to owner in Oamaru. To Union Line in 1887 and after
acquiring TSN transferred to Tasmanian coast and reg Hobart in 1901, trans
to Launceston and Holymans in 1904. accommodation altered in 1921 û
465/272tons.
WARFIEDLD hm ûWHY, OH WHY??, THE VESSEL WAS NAMED æH.M.WarfieldÆ.
which you managed to include under the letter HHH so why put it here unless
you intended, but forgot to do so, to cross reference???///
WAR HAWK, I ps, 107/51, len. 1877 = 120/59 ON56830 Built
1865 Hull, arrived Dec.31,1867 for Reid,Poole & Co, of whom Jas
Deane a partner who had reg the vessel in London and trans to Melbourne
and remained officially owner until sold to Melb Harb.Commissioners in
1878 Unprofitable in Melbourne and in 1868 sent to Newcastle,seeking work
and then to Maryorough before returning to Melbourne. reg closed 1896 with
æbroken upÆ and make up your mind û you say this
paddler took the first railway engine to sale and then in the next entry
for a ketch you say it did that job û such wonferfu editorial control
ha ha ha haaaaaaaa
WARHAWK, w KETCH B.1871 Sandridge, and always worked to or around the
gippslands lakes, and from Nov.1874 until Feb.1882 owned by Gippsland Steam
navigation company. Register closed in 1917 æbeabhed and broken
up Gippsland lakes date unknown.ö Could this fate have been æaccidetnallyÆ
(ha ha) awarded to the paddle tug ????
WARIA NO TRACE
WARIALTA no trace,, anything this name
WARILDA s TSS SEE AUST COASTAL PASS SHIPS,
- Dalmuir is in Scotland along the Clyde river should you care to consult
a map. And you overlooked an earlier attempt to torpedo her which failed
to cause damage.
WARLINGTON. Iron paddle steamer, never heard of it and cannot imagine
what name has been mutilated beyond belief, but there was never anything
like that working on sydney harbour. The nearest being WASHINGTON
but I cannot guess how it came to read warlington
WAROOKA I ss 216g ON89401, B.1883 Paisley, did very well
to arrive in south Australia before that colony had been created/settled,
i.e, 1833, just another slight slip of the finger by this marvellous typist
who can hardly type and does not read very well either. Sold away from
the SA gulf trades in 1918 to Townsville ec.etc.
WAROONGA< see aust coastal pas ships, S ss ON86749
B.1882 for British India Associated steamers, to operate on the queensland
royal Mail line, and from the very first sometimes made coastal voyages
in australia and in 1888 loaned to AUSn, to meet competition and
transferred next year to the company and remained in the coastal trades
until transferred toBISN in 1900 û which after all were simply name
changes seeing the owners of BISN also controlled the other two companies
WAHROONGA torpedoed april 5, 1943, and sank on the 6th
WARRANT, is a mutilation of the name of previous entry
WARREGO ss SEE AUST.COASTAL PASS SHIPS, BUILT FOR QUEENSLAND
Stm Shippign Co., which was one of the partners to form AUSN
WARRENTINNA W ss SEE AUST COASTAL PASS SHIPS, VARIOUS TONNAGES RANGING
FROM FIRST OF 144/1002 TO 162 when reg in Sydney in 1918.
Syd reg closed 1950 when no trace could be found of ship or owner and it
was noted it was thought it had been broken up about 1930.
WARRIMOO, was never owned by Huddart Parker, James Huddart, one of
the partners of tht company was also interested in the A& NZ Trans-pacific
service and helped form the NZ & Aust SS Co, which
passed away
WARTALT û the same mystery as the warialta but nothing
remotely near these names officially reported, so if it happened they were
either unregistered or foreign
WARUNG, W ss tug, b.1884 30/10 while sunk in 1906, raised,
repaired, hulked in 1930, and used on the harbour until sold in1949 for
demolition
WASHINTON I PS, 192 TONS, b.1844 Leith,Scotland, arrived Melbourne
early 1854 and intended for use as a tug at the Rip, probably unsuitable
and sold to sydney November 1854, and sometimes used in excursions
and ferry work to Manly which is possibly the strange vessel noted earlier,
sold and arrived shanghai june 23 1862 and under US flag worked on the
rivers out of shanghai, returned british reg in Hong kong in 1865 under
the name GORILLA AND THAT REG CLOSED July 1866 on sale foreign
WATCMAN, UNREGISTERED
Water lily. Alleged to have arrived Melbourne July 4, 1841 û
nothing with a name remotely like that arrived that year WATER
LILY built 1839 arrived July 23, 1840 from London which became
folio 18 of 1840 in sydney but no mentionof G.w. Cole although he
appears as agent for two immigrant ships that arrived in August 1840 û
another wild goose chase by some of your fairytale fiction writers.???
WATER LILY I TSS excursion steamer b.1878 Rutherglen, imported
by proprietors of West Australian Steam Packet & TRanspot Com for use
as excursion steamer but the company failed and in May 1898 sold
to the timber company who used it to tow vessels but also used as a steam
powered lighter to convey timber to sailing ships. Etc.etc.
WATERWITCH w 3M BQ, 253T 1860 û 236 b.1820 AS hms
falcon, SOLD OUT 1838 so the falcon of 1839 another warship
not this one, or the date, as so often, is wrong. And story about pirates
etc, all wrong. The vessel arrived sydney Dec, 23, 1841 from the
sperm fishery Capt.Christie, and reported losing 8 men when at Apapam,
left for the fishery Feb. 23, 1842, and was pirated by ex chief officer
KING,and MASTER OF faith, at Lord Howe Island March 23. (Faith, Francis
john Kinfg,FAITH bgn/sch nov 2 1841 ex fishery and left march
1842 new master, so King was only formerly of Faith when the pirating took
place. First reg sydney 1853 by parties interested in whaling, May
1860 to John Macarthur, Hobart, and upon his death in 1875 sold to Alex
McGregor
WATERWITCH, BULT 1831, AND OF COURSE THAT Chester is in England
and the story about the gold coin, if true must relate to anohter of that
name or else that contributor is as bonkers as so many of yours have been
Then later on you have the correct vessel with the money, ho ho ha ha,
the editor really stands out - but in a way that demonstrates his
gross incompetence.!!!
WATTEMBACH, and so called collision, another wonderful example of
mistaken identity, poor research, or sheer stupidity. The vessel
concerned was
MATILDA WATTENBACH, which arrived April 27,1854 from Liverpool with
immigrants and passengers, that ran foul of a vessel in Bay of Biscay and
returned to port for repairsà.
WELLINGTON I SS 364/262: 1877 383/279Æ 1884 4429/262.
ON40324, B.1863 Blackwood & Gordon, Port Glasgow, for N.Z. S.N.Co,
reg.Wellington folio 2 of 1864.: 1877 to Union S S CO reg.Dunedin:
1881 Northern SS Co, reg closed Jan1.1910 with æhulked in auckland
by George NicollÆ
Wellington,Gippsland 1870s û nothing, but in May 1890 J.Caterinich,
of ketch WELLINGTON, reg. Melbourne, traded until sold to Pt
Adelaide 1902. Built 1884
WENDOREE, see aust.coastal pass ships, - soon after arriving
aust. fitted for passengers.
WENONA TO Auckland owners 1883 , acquired Howard Smith as coal
hulk for Pt.Adelaide and after fire remains sold for demolition reg
closed Sept.1921
WENTWORTH I SS, see aust.coastal pass ships. Built for australasian
S N CO, which went into AUSN in 1887 etc
WERFA I SS COLLIER, . first in Aust at Sydney 1898
for Bellambi Coal Co., reg. closed 1913 û hulked, and reg Melbourne
WEST AUSTRALIAN, two vessels same name, and both muddled up û
not strange in this book where it happens all the time but
the vessel lost Haapi was not the one reg later in New Zealand,
as you will find should you read my reports but apparently not simple
enough for you to understand û I must improve my presentation of
words down to the present unintelligent level prevailing.
The WEST Hartleys û more and more confusion. They were
built to deliver coal from a mine on Lake Macquarie hence the centre board
but I donÆt feel inclined to dip into this quagmire.
WEST WIND W SS VERY WOBBLY STORY, BUT IT WAS NOT THE SECOND
American built steamer to arrive Prt PHillip see Rajah Wallie, however
will abandon it/.
WESTERN I SS, see aust.coastal pass ships. ON48414 Built 1861
Mitchell & CO, Low walker, so built in Northumberland is more correct
than Newcastle û Walker on Tyne is below Newcastle, but in
the county of Northumberland.. Built to the order of s.G.Henty, 1874 sold
to sydney employed in rate wars on the Queensland coast for a time, by
1900 had become a collier
WESTERN BELLE, if the position of her loss is wrong tell the newspaper
which printed it.
WESTERN STAR built 1855 , The marine board of enquiry into her loss
quotes the master as Wilhelm wolshe despite the customs in Sydney writing
his name as William Walsh. The vessel was first reg sydney in 1863
WESTOE HALL Weston Hall, nothing like this name(s) sunk
in Feb.1917 according to official war loss list, or at any other time But
it may be WESTONBY torpedoed April 15,1917 195 miles south
west by south of the Fastnet
WESTLAND, of shaw savill (why to you always put an E n that name which
was dropped before the man joined the shipping company???) must have happened
early in the 20th cenury I can trace her visits to NEW Zealand up till
1900. see æwhite wingsÆ
WESTRALIA TSMV, JUST WHY TWO ENTRIES offering two different builder
yards? Etc.etc. I believe there was supposed to be an editor but I have
yet to see any evidence of one hitting the pages of this dreadful exhibition
of how not to print a book.
WHITE BAY, SYDNEY TO Lake Macquarie, and lost in stockton Bight???
We really were in trouble in a big way considering the local geography.
WHITE PINE, I 3m bq, to Auckland owners feb.1899 as QUATHLAMBA,
renamed HAZEL CRAIG in 1905, REG TRANS TO syDNEY 1908 AS Hazel Craig,
RENAMED white pine, Jan. 1916, 1922 to Melbourne register and Jas
Paterson as a coal hulk. Etc.etc.
WHITE STAR, made first visit to Melbourne in 1855 and thence annualy
for a number of years and visited after intermittently until at least 1867,
and made one voyage via Hong Kong to deliver chinese workers to Melbourne,
sold in 1867 detail of ship = W ship, built 1854 by W.&
r.Wright, St.John, New Brunswick and launched as BLUE JACKET,but
renamed before completion when the builders became minor partners with
props of white star Line. Reg tonnage 2339 tons Wrecked on the Tuskar while
on passage from Calcutta to Liverpool December 24, 1883 having left
Calcutta July 31st but the rest of your entry OK
WHITE SWAN, isS FOR FULL DETAIL OF OWNERSHIPS SEE Aust.Coastal Pass.
ships, and while McMeckan Blackwood never owned the vessel they were sometimes
agents in Melbourne
WHITE PINE, again, why????
WIARAPURa wonderful mutilation by yet another of your more hopeless
contributors. The incident took place Feb.20, 1884, and the
Union liner was WAIRARAPA - you do like to quote from the most unreliable
writers
WICKLOW, full date see Scuttled and Abandoned ships
WILD IRISH GIRL, brig, 125 tns, built 1848 Sydney, trans
to Melbourne 1856 and then to Singapore
WILD WAVE this collection I have ignored as too complicated
to try and sort out
WILL WATCH, Warrnambool 1847 did not happen, lthough the 63 ton vessel
built 1840 was trading in vic western districts at the time,
WILLIAM ship capt Wm Folger from London, cork and rio march 10
1794 same number of barrels as year of arriving??Strange, to
say the least
WILLIAM, and all that blather from Lawson. There was NO registered
vessel this name built in 1827, but the vessel built in 1835, at Launceston
was originally inscribed 149 tons, and then in 1844 was altered to
read 121 tons and of course at the end of all this rubbish you list the
62/63 tons vessel in SMH of 1855 which has abolustely nothing to do with
any of the above!!! That one Was built in 1843
Manning River that was registered Sydney that was wrecked in
NZ in 1866
WILLIAM THE FOURTH, WHICH CAPT Steine joined in May 1831 was û
129 tons, altered in 1833 = 199 tons, built 1831 Macquarie Harbour
and taken by the govt, until sold to Thomas Horne & others, for
ú1375, and it was reg as folio 12 of 1831, I cannot even begin to
speculate where your 225 tons came from although there was another William
about that size appear later in the early years. The demise of which you
will find in my book
WILLIAM AND JAMES, YOUR SMALL CUTTER, WAS THE VESSEL IMMEDIATELY ABOVE,
WHICH WAS OFFERED FOR SALE WHEN IT RETURNED FROM New Zealand, the
first owner sold to Auckland in March, and it returned to sydney
Feb.1851
WLLIAM AND JOHN, no such vessel, however WILLIAM JOHn,
b. 1876 williamstown, reg Launceston in 1898 24 tons by J H E Griffiths,
the reg of which was closed 1920 with broken up
WILLIAM AND MARTHA, ARRIVED Melbourne April 8, 1855, when
master charged with murder. She had 275 chinese passengers in the steerage.
This vessel was later reg in sydney by Robert Towns 381t, b.1829 USA and
probably already owned by Towns when this incident happened.
WILLIAM AND MARY 47 TONS AND NEXT ENTRY THE SAME VESSEL
William ackers, YOU DO NOT LIKE waipapa in New zealand û it is
always mutilated when you get your hands on it
WILLIAM BROWN, 1885, LAST TRANSACTION 1899 TO w.b.Downs.
WILLIAM BRYAN, W BQ 312/ 367T Master Wm.roman, arrived
P Phlip from Launceston June 17 1839 and left in August for
Sydney
WILLIAM CEASER, ACTUALLY WILLIAM COSSAR which you have later, but give
the wrong year for the pirating, according to Cumpston and the contemporary
press
WILLIAM FAIRBURN, WAS BUILT BY LAIRD AS ÆWilliam FairburnÆ
for Potter Bros, and reg Liverpool and in 1877 when sold to messrs Webster,
Scarborough, ws renamdd æF.F.websterÆ and in 1886 when sold
to Austrian owners renamed LJUBIROD and when acq by BP in Dec.
1888, as usual when for British reg. returns british ex foreign, reverts
to original name, although you and or your accomplices do not seem to know
this basic fact
WILLIAM JAMES B. 1849 NOT REGISTERED
William McArthur, SOLD TO Hong Kong in 1960
William Metcalfe 447 tons, arrived Melbourne Nov. 15, 1839 with more
than 200 migrants, capt E.Phillipson. and made a number of return trips
from UK
WILLIAM MISKIN. See aust coastal pass ships for full detail
I ss 124/74 on32479 B.1852 wm.Pim,Hull pioneer passenger steamer on
many australian coastal services. Imported for the NSW Coal &
Intercolonial SN CO. reg sydney,thence to Hobart 1859 Howard smith &
others for short sea ocean trips out of Melbourne to eastern particularly
but also western country ports in July 1863 to New Zealand the NSW
COAL etc., collapsed in late 1854 and the vessel then became regular sydney-MarybroÆ
service that extended to Port Curtis as required . etc etc. but your
report, as usual, so wrong, as to defy clarification, Henty had nothing
to do with it for example, that was Howard Smith and it was wrecked at
Timaru, on the other side of the southern island to Hokitika û as
so often happens you choose to use the most unreliable and poorly researched
reports,
WILLIAM PARSONS no vessesl this name registered, no Wlliam pearson
and despite your references, SYME does not list anything like that either
WILLIAM PHILLIPS no trace
WILLIAM POPE see my book for better information
WILLIAM IV, WHICH I AND OTHERS LIST AS William the fourth
AND SO YOU DO LATER ON WHEN IT REAPPEARS AND PICKS UP MY REPORT.-- SUCH
WONDERFUL EDITING???
William the fourth, w PS, FAIRYLAND AGAIN. SEE AUST.COASTAL
;PASS SHIPS AND IT WAS REG 5/1832 SYDNEY THE OTHER ONE WAS 1/1839 Sydney
û and traded to the hunter river, Pt.Macquarie, Brisbane, the
southern towns of NSW and also chartered to the French for voyages to Noumea
û sold 1861 to China and early 1862 on the ningpo route
the last reliable information comes from the China Post in1868 saying after
laying idle for years at Ningpo it is being refurbished for the Japan trade.
WILLIAMS IPS see aust coastal pass ships û amazing
how much you can turn up when a vessel gets to Melbourne - the rest of
her life hardly matters û not that we are parochial or one eyed or
anything, it is just that we have so much rubbish available about Victoria
there is no room for anything else û nothing about a visit to New
Zealand for example,
WILLIAMS W BGN, 188 on42903.. b. 1861 Prince Ed Is. to Aust.
at .
Pt.Adelaide 1863 sydney 1874 wrecked Cape Barron, north of Rchmond
River,NSW sept.14,1876
WILLIAMSTOWN WSS FERRY BUILT 1910
WILLOCHRA. S tss see Aust Coastal passenger ships û
never worked on the Australian coast
WILLS ,scuttled, see Scuttled & Abandoned ships for correct
information, among other things was built from iron not steel
WINGS OF THE WIND, S 3m ship, 941t ON40902 B.1852 Issac
Durham, Frankfort, Maine., ex foreign Flying arrow
WODONGA, s SS see Aust Coastal Pass Ships, and of course you still
cannot manage to spell australasian correctlyà. And just what do
you mean when you say æbuilt 1890 launched April 1891Æ is beyond
my limited command of the english language and of course it did work on
the queensland coast when travelling from Melbourne Sydney Brisbane Townsville
etc. But never exclusively in qld waters
Wolff, German commerce raider, full of holes, as usual. You say was
named one thing, then say another a little
later etc etc. so will ignore
WOLLOMAI,, MELB 14 OF 1876 SAYS BUILT Yarra bank and described as a
schooner and always inscribed with customs as such, press said
brigantine and just where your better informed adviserers found it built
Williamstown is a mystery, but there are so many such mysteries in this
continuous diasaster it is hardly worth mentioning.
WOLAMBA - EDITORIALLY CHECKED û HA HA but you
did manage to get it right before as Wallamba
WOMERAH, w PS, 34/21 Lane Cove û Hunters Hill
ferry.
WONGA WONGA, I SS SEE Aust.Coastal Pass ships. Orig.444 reg tons. Lengthened
1868 û 1002gross/682nett. The vessel lost on the Grey river, - consult
my work. On the Melbourne-New Zealand run for some time in the 1850s etc.
but her reg closed 1880 with broken up which suggests she might of
had some difficulty appearing in 1894 although you assert this happened?
Editor asleep or drugged or something?
WONGA WONGA ketch built 1876 is coupled with an event in 1871
û just what does go on? û very little makes sense in this epic
disaster, but I would have thought even you could have worked out that
this reference was not quite right!!!
WONIORA S ss B.1913, to Holyman in 1926. laid up Appleton
dock Melblourne April 1958, sold 1959 to hong kong for demolition
WOODBINE w bq, built Banff, first in aust at sydney in 1864.
WOOLAHRA your first attempt, SEEKING SENSATIONAL GOSSIP, HAS THE NAME
SPELT WRONGLY, TRY BELOW IN CORRECT NAME
Woolamai MAY, have been Little Angelina rebuilt, but the registrar
refused to accept that and called it a new ship and Little Angleina
reg closed 1913 broken up officially Woolami built 1912 at Bass,
western port in 1912, ON`132444
Woollahra see the disaster a few entries above
WOOLOOMOOLOO W ship 627 tons, built 1852 W.hood & Co,
for Thompsons
WUNTHALONG, lighter, Underwriters reg list as having been sunk
and recovered Jan.1897
WYRALLAH I tss built for Nicoll brothers,, who merged 1891 with
North
coast s.N>CO., NSCSN sold april 1900 to G.a.Carpenter,reg. Melbourne
who formed Gippsland Steamers ûsee Aust.Coastal Pass ships
for more accurate information
WYREEMA, see Aust coastal pass ships and of course
ownerÆs name mutilated
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Xantho I SS EX PS, 110G 62N,after convert to screw 1861
but the waters around northern Scotland where it worked for some time can
hardly be called calmer than those off the west australian coast.and her
engine of 1861, was not unique but locating one of that type was historically
interesting although there are others such as John Penn, sunk off
south coast of NSW with same engines
XARIFA, w BRIG, 208T, built 1841, Jersey, 1853 reg Melbourne
by a syndicate including the Turnbulls of Melbourne and pt.Albert. who
sold in 1855 to others and returns overseas reg 1858
XARIFA and your instructional comment û perhaps you could consult
with Customs because they when writing off those lost pearling
vessels, invariably say it was at Cape Mellville. û sorry if this
annoys you, but I only offer what is officially shown
XENOPHON, well,well, none of your æexpertsÆ managed to
discover it was formerly of considerable interest to Australia, and was
built in 1795, and was sometimes named INVESTIGATOR.THE REGISTER
WAS CLOSED IN1873 WITH BROKEN UP.
YYY
Yalta SEE UNDER CORRECT NAME OF yulta
Yamba ISS ON1136464 WAS BUILT IN 1886 AND
WAS SCUTTLED 1949 û SEE SCUTTLED AND ABANDONED SHIPS FOR SOME MUCH
MORE ACCURATE DETAIL
YANKALILLA S ss ON12311182,, acq. Mar 1912 by Adsteam from Cardiff
owners, sold july 1929 to Swedish buyers then Finnish in 193
and renamed PLUTO. Torpedoed June 28,1941 near the Butt of Lewis, Outer
Hebrides. See the Adelaide Line
YARALLA, you could see aust. coastal Pass ships for how to spell
the owners name correctly û if there is anyone you know who can type
and read
YAROTA STEAM TUG IN 1851, NO WAY û JUST WHAT WHERE HOW I DO NOW
KNOW BUT THAT IS A LOT OF RUBBISH
Yarra BUILT 1850 ORIGINALLY REG AS 139 TONS, RE REG
1858 - 141T,
Yarra cps, ownerÆs named mutilated, as so often happens
with your near sighted, almost fingerless typist.
YARRA I,, BQ, B. 1870 THE PLACE IN WEST AUST YOU HAVE RENAMED
CASSOCK HAPPENS TO BE cossck
YARRA SLOOP 37T on31685, B.1839 Melbourne the last transaction was
august 1859 by a master who soon after left for New Zealand. The reg is
closed dec.1876 æ no further informaionÆ
YARRA mm STEAMER WHY TWO ENTRIES WITH THE SAME INFORMTION. Editor asleep
again???
YARRA NORGE SS THE REMAINS WERE SCUTTLED AFTER THE FIRE WAS PUT
OUT,AND SHE WAS REFLOATED.
Yarra hmas, ANOTHER IRON STEAMER BUILT IN 20TH FOR THE NAVY???? JUST
WHAT IS IT THAT COMPELLS YOU TO MAKE SUCH STUPID MISTAKES???????//// CORRECT
INFORMATION SEE Scutteld & Abandoned Ships
YARRA YARRA I PS, SEE Aust.Coastal Pass ships. 337 rg tons,
length 1862 û 555/350 was built for ASN but just how it could be
mentioned in connection wth alleged overcrowing on the Bass Strait in 1851
when it only arrived in Sydney April 5, 1852 û some more rubbish
from your wonderful æexpertsÆ??? converted to a collier, having
previously announced to be hulked by ASN when acquired by Summerbell, but
just what privately owned may mean in your pile of rubbish I do not
know, it was never publicly owned and it MAY have been ordered by Hunters
River company but by the time it arrived that company had renamed and expanded
into ASN
YATALA ips TUG, b.1877 Blackwood & Gordon PORT Glasgow
YATALA on89433 was built at PORT AUGUSTA, NOT Adelaide
it was sold to T.tulloch in 1893 but no one got around to telling
the customs anything more and register written off in 1961
YOLLA coastall steamer 1913 û nothing that name registered in
australia in 1913
YOSEMITE, wood not IRON, and built in1868 makes it difficult to have
performed in the US civil war û see Scuttled & Abandoned Ships
û presumably was a lighter/hulk when on the Melbourne Geelong run???????
And the place you have it constructed is not to be found in any map of
USA
YOU YANGS TWO ENTRIIES û WHY???????/ 583/474 1871 = 672/457
REMEASURED IN 1863 WHEN Howard .Smith and others purchased for the Melbourne-Ncle
coal trade but was refitted in 1871 and pass accommodation installed for
the Melbourne, NCLE Sydney route first in aust at Launceston having sailed
out and now to have screw fitted. Arriving april 13, 1864 û
see aust.coastgal pass ships
YOUNG AUSTRALIA< OF 1852, AS red rover, ARRIVED Pt.Phillip May 30,
1859 from Hong Kong and returned there after discharge
YOUNG AUSTRALIA 3M SCH, YOUR BLACKBIRDER WAS ACTUALLY young Australian
b.1864 AND WRECKED 1877 AS PER MY LISTING.
See your own entry under proper name, and was ALWAYS REGISTERED
AS young Australian so you can dimiss Loney rambling on about things he
knew nothing about. It was impossible to change the name of a british ship
until 1875 among other things he knew little about and are completely unknown
to the editor of this horrible compilation.
YOUNG BUDGAREE was registered as YOUNG BUNGAREE on83881 b.1883
Williams River and it may have had an accident in 1885 but it was alive
and kicking when transferred to New Zealand in 1902 and her register
closed in 1926 with broken up
YOUNG DICK another of your miracle workers -- built 1869 and
reported doing something in 1868??? first in australasia at wellingtion
1875 so your reported events in 1868 are somewhat mysterious although with
the poor standard in typesetting perhaps there is some finger problem??????//
YOUNG HEBE. it was NEVER registered Melbourne
YOUNG QUEEN, your copy typesetter has gone completey blind again û
I clearly state it was owned by the brown brothers, which has been completely
misread û a not unusual event in this hystrerically inept production
Just the same you cannot forebear a supposed correction by quoting the
press û sheer laziness on someones part
YOUNG ST GEORGE, YOUR COPYIST SIMPLY IS UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND A WORD
OF WHAT HE/SHE MAY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COPY. THE VESSEL WAS constructed
ON THE DECK NOT OUT OF THE DECK
Ysabel WAS A STEEL HULL SINGLE CREW STEAMER
Yuloo fror correct details of scuttling and other info
see Scuttled and Abandoned ships
Zzzz
Not worth checking.
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